ML for ubuntu+1

shirish shirishag75 at
Sat Aug 18 19:06:47 UTC 2007

> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:12:55 +0200
> From: Reinhard Tartler <siretart at>
> Subject: Re: ML for ubuntu+1
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at
> Cc: shirish <shirishag75 at>
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> shirish <shirishag75 at> writes:
> > I looked at & while there is a ubuntu-users is
> > that where people should post queries like the one I am going to put
> > up next or here. Shouldn't there be a dedicated ML for the next
> > development release.  While we have this ML its seems to be more about
> > crystal-gazing, implementation in the near term & not with the
> > specifics of issues arising in the distro. one is using now.  (gutsy
> > 7.10)
> quoting
>  About Ubuntu-devel-discuss
>     * Sharing of experiences with the current development branch of Ubuntu
>     * Technical questions about new features in the development branch
>     * Ideas and suggestions about future development of Ubuntu
>     * Point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach Ubuntu developers
>     * Open to all to subscribe, posting moderated for non-subscribers
> I agree that the description doesn't really match with reality that
> much, but the text above states what this mailing list was actually
> intended for, and it seems to me that this is exactly what you ask for.
> Perhaps we should more actively promote this mailing list to our testers
> to report about issues?
> --
> Gruesse/greetings,
> Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4
> ------------------------------

Hi Richard,
            That would be surely better, maybe also give ubotu
something to speak about in IRC once or twice a day so some people who
are on #ubuntu+1 can catch it.

> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:10:19 +0200
> From: "bapoumba at" <bapoumba at>
> Subject: Re: ML for ubuntu+1
> To: Reinhard Tartler <siretart at>
> Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss at, shirish
>         <shirishag75 at>
> Message-ID: <1187431819.6507.17.camel at yeti.unicaen.local>
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> Hello!
> I'm not sure if you all come to ubuntuforums or not.
> We actually have several sub-forums for development.
> The dev sub-forums gets archived (ie closed for posting) after the
> version gets released. Currently, its "Development (Gutsy Gibbon)" [1].
> A new one will be created when the first +1 snapshot is out.
> In addition, there are two sections, Gutsy Gibbon Idea Pool [2] and Dev
> Link Forum [3]. I think the devel-discuss mailing list could be promoted
> in these UF sub-forums, and more relationships established between ml
> and forums, so that everyone, and the +1 release, benefit.
> Any thoughts?
> Cheers,
> Isabelle.
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> --
> bapoumba

Hi Isabelle,
         From what little experience I have had of the forums, they
are good for generation of ideas but as far as seeking advice is
concerned, I didn't have good advice from the forum than the mailing
list or the IRC. Maybe one of  the reasons might be that IRC is logged
while the mailing list is also archived & is probably read more by the
powers that be. So even if there is no active moderation there is some
kind of passive moderation. People are more careful to what they give
advice about & generally people are polite towards each other which
makes for more healthy community I guess.
       Now while I do admit that the Idea Pool is a great concept &
let's say we get something like 5000 odd good ideas, from what little
I have seen, Ubuntu can do only let's say 15-20 odd features, and that
I'm not saying at all in a bad away. Apart from the bug-fixes & new
looks/UI that upstream (debian. GNOME, KDE & various other upstream
projects provide), there is also lot of bug-testing involved. Heck we
take a month & half for making sure that its a bug-free release
Anyway now I'm kinda meandering off as its past my bed-time so end it
just by saying, thanx all  for your guidance.
          Shirish Agarwal
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