"you can't catch me" notifications

[Björn Torkelsson]

2014-12-11 14:35 GMT+01:00 Marc Deslauriers <marc.deslauriers at canonical.com>
:

> On 2014-12-11 08:25 AM, Björn Torkelsson wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2014-12-11 1:26 GMT+01:00 Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com <mailto:
> ogra at ubuntu.com>>:
> >
> >     hi,
> >
> >     Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2014, 23:19 +0100 schrieb Björn Torkelsson:
> >
> >     >
> >     >         the notification behaviour is quite nice as is, i surely
> >     >         wouldn't want
> >     >         to have to click notifications to dismiss them (they are
> >     >         definitely one
> >     >         reason for me to prefer unity over other desktops)
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > It would have been nice to being able to dismiss them before they
> >     > disappear though, even if they fade away when hovering over them.
> >
> >     the issue with that is that you start clicking them just because it
> >     takes to long til they go away, they interrupt your work flow that
> way,
> >     i noticed that since we use these kind of notifications in ubuntu
> (is it
> >     5 or already 6 years that they are the default ?) my own distractions
> >     have become massively less from having notifications. i read them,
> >     notice what they want to tell me and simply rely on the fact they
> will
> >     vanish.
> >     i *never* feel the urge to interact with them (except for the case
> where
> >     they actually cover screen space i want to be able to read). i
> >     personally found the new notifications a big relief when they landed
> and
> >     still find them to be very convenient *specifically* because you can
> not
> >     interact with them, they make you develop better habits regarding
> your
> >     own work flow.
> >     i find it awesome that there are desktops like cinnamon where people
> >     that love to interact with desktop elements can do that, but i
> haven't
> >     found any desktop where all these little things like the above
> actually
> >     sum up to make you so much more productive by simply going out of
> your
> >     way like i have it in unity. i personally prefer to interact with
> >     content, not with desktop elements ...
> >
> >
> > I mostly agree with you and I think how it currently works is awesome
> and does
> > not interrupt what you are doing. There are two exceptions, of which you
> > mentioned one. The case when you need to read what's behind the
> notification and
> > can't move the pointer over the notification so it fades away.
>
> If you can't move the pointer, you wouldn't be able to dismiss it even if
> it was
> clickable.
>

Move the pointer, dismiss the notification, move back the pointer. Continue
to work.

vs

Move the pointer,  the notification fades away, move the pointer, the
notification fades in again.

vs

Take a coffee break while waiting for the notification to go away :-)


>  The other case is
> > when you (for some reason) want to copy the text in the notification
> and/or for
> > some reason want to make it persistent.
>
> Notifications become persistent in the indicators. Clicking the appropriate
> indicator should bring you to the actual application which should then
> allow you
> to copy the required text.
>

Not necessarily. A (really bad) example is if you have something using
notify-send, then there are probably no indicator. But sure you can always
argue that it is a bad-written software and/or you can use something like
https://launchpad.net/~jconti/+archive/ubuntu/recent-notifications

/Björn
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