Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity

[Nenad]

On 12/29/2011 02:35 AM, Alexander wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jeremy Bicha <jeremy at bicha.net
> <mailto:jeremy at bicha.net>> wrote:
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>     On 28 December 2011 17:55, Nenad
>     <nenad_lecek at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:nenad_lecek at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>      > I do not see where to choose Gnome Panel. Again, I'm using Ubuntu
>     11.10. If
>      > I could remove Unity from my desktop and put Gnome panel instead
>     fine with
>      > me. But, because is far from obvious where&how to do it, you have my
>      > comments.
>
>     You can install gnome-panel from either Software Center, Synaptic, or
>     apt-get. Then on the login screen, click the gear button next to your
>     name and choose GNOME Classic. You might be a bit disappointed as
>     Ubuntu's nice indicator status menus weren't ported to gnome-panel for
>     Ubuntu 11.10 but they will be available in 12.04. By the way, you need
>     to hold down the Alt key (or if Compiz is running: Alt and the Windows
>     key) to customize gnome-panel 3's applets.
>
>     I don't recommend attempting to remove Unity.
>
>      > I have impression that the Unity is mandatory, simply because I
>     cannot find
>      > a way to switch back to Gnome Panel. So, if Gnome Panel is
>     available in
>      > Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity is not mandatory, fine. And again, Unity
>     was selected
>      > as a default option - bad choice, the user should have easier way
>     to switch
>      > between Unity and Gnome Panel.
>
>     In my limited experience, people new to Linux don't have a problem
>     with Unity especially if someone shows them how to use it. In fact, I
>     think it's a better experience for this user group than the classic
>     GNOME desktop. For a variety of reasons, Ubuntu will not provide
>     multiple desktops by default (basically for the same reasons Ubuntu
>     doesn't provide multiple web browsers or photo editors). However, a
>     variety of desktop interfaces and applications are available for easy
>     install in the Software Center.
>
>     Jeremy
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> This thread is disappointing. There are some complaints about Ubuntu and
> a lack of userability etc. If you don't like something about Ubuntu,
> change it. Learn how to work with your Unix-like system. The mailing
> list doesn't need to be filled with complaints providing no help or
> useful information. If you like it, great! Get involved and make a
> difference. If you don't like it, great! Get involved and understand how
> the distribution is organized. Alternatively, you can leave and go to
> something else. Enough complaining, it's not helpful.
> Alexander
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Alexander,
It was not about complaining at all. My intention was to provide 
comments which could lead to improvements of next releases of Ubuntu. I 
respect hard work of people who make Ubuntu possible. Because of that I 
provided my comments. All I said is what I think is needed to improve. 
My time schedule doesn't allow me now to jump in this problem solving. 
And even more important, my comments are not about quality of 
implementation, not about local fixes in code, they are about strategy 
how to address the needs regarding user interface of different user 
groups with Ubuntu. (beginners vs. IT experts)

FYI, most people kindly provided useful comments how to resolve my 
problem, and I succeeded by following their advices.

I'm grateful to all of you who discussed and contributed to solve the 
problem (solution to run Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome Panel => happy with 
Ubuntu again :-) ). Thank you.

Nenad