Call for Lucid testing: GTK enhancements

Shane Fagan shanepatrickfagan at
Sat Dec 12 04:03:05 GMT 2009

Hey desktop team,

I dont know if it was the nvidia drivers breaking in lucid or the GTK
enhancements but I had some major problems after I installed the desktop
team's ppa. So many things went wrong at once I couldnt get any
tracebacks or logs ill try the new decorations in jaunty and see if it

Shane Fagan

On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 01:18 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Friday 11 December 2009 11:57:06 pm Adam Petaccia wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 13:44 -0500, Ken VanDine wrote:
> > > Hello Desktoppers!
> > >
> > > The Ayatana team has been working on some GTK enhancements for Lucid.
> > > Adding support for Client Side window decorations and enabling RGBA
> > > color maps by default.  We have uploaded a patched version of gtk which
> > > adds these features to the ~ubuntu-desktop team PPA (along with a needed
> > > fix for nautilus to go along with it).
> > >
> > > The new decorations feature requires explicit support from a theme
> > > before it becomes active (it defaults to being disabled). However, RGBA
> > > support is enabled by default and there is a chance for some fallout
> > > from this being added.
> > 
> > Can you provide the names or links to these themes? I know murrine
> > (murrine-themes) provides some RGBA support, but I don't know which
> > which themes necessarily enable it by default. But I don't know anything
> > about this decorations feature.
> We haven't gotten that far yet! The initial rgba code was for testing and I 
> think we've received a good response so far. The real changes are in gtk, not 
> in the theme engine itself (outside of the extra definitions which become 
> possible through these changes). The murrine rgba support is amazing, but 
> something completely different than what we are discussing here. This change 
> enables us to offer rgba support per widget class, something completely new and 
> different.
> Understand that this effort is not about expanding a theme engine but about 
> changing gtk itself (which changes what theme engines can offer). It is a much 
> more substantial effort than one would assume.
> I've been running this stuff on my laptop and have noticed problems with 
> nautilus but I don't think it is anything we cannot fix. Wide-spread testing 
> has identified some other issues which need to be fixed but all in all I think 
> that we are progressing well.
> We need to make sure it works without the rgba bits turned on beforehand - so 
> far that testing is going well :) Consider this the pre-alpha release of some 
> code we really need to test quickly and thoroughly at a very pre-release 
> level.
> Adding the important bits to the theme is simple, once we decide how :p
> --
> Kenneth

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