Desktop Team 20090811 meeting minutes

Sebastien Bacher seb128 at ubuntu.com
Wed Aug 12 22:15:27 BST 2009


Here are the minutes from the desktop team meeting. You can also find
them and the irc log here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-08-11

= Meeting Minutes =
== Present ==
=== Main Meeting ===
 * Alexander Sack (asac)
 * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
 * Bryce Harrington (bryce)
 * Chris Cheney (calc)
 * Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)  
 * Tony Espy

=== Eastern Edition ===

No Eastern edition but Luke will read the meeting log

 * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

== Apologies ==

 * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) (swap day)

== Agenda ==
 * Outstanding actions from last meeting

=== Announcements ===

=== Status Updates ===
 * Partner Update
 * Kubuntu Update
 * Release Bugs/Release Status
 * Review activity reports

=== Discussion ===


=== Any other business ===

== Actions from this meeting ==

== Outstanding actions from last meeting ==

 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to add burndown chart to meeting template
  * RESULT: not done, rick on holidays
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to check into getting some different wireless
access points for testing NM to Dublin
  * RESULT: sprint over, was that done?
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to create list of design team inputs needed for
sprint
  * RESULT: sprint over
 * ACTION: everyone who can, do some sponsoring extra sponsoring this
week 
  * RESULT: done

== Partner Update ==

==== DX team ====
 * xsplash and related patches for the Karmic boot experience
 * indicator-sus, fusa replacement

==== OLS team ====
 * desktopcouch done
 * evolution-couchdb mostly ready
 * couchdb-glib mostly ready
 * bindwood being packaged

== Kubuntu Update ==

 * KDE 4.3.0 all packaged and in
 * Plasma Netbook UI now in Kubuntu Netbook
 * Message Indicator now in Kubuntu Desktop
 * NM 0.8 broke knetworkmanager, asac and awe investigating fixing

== Activity reports ==

=== Alexander Sack (asac) ===

Mozilla and browser:
 * lots of multisearch discussion with community, colleagues and
managers
 * nss/nspr 3.12.3 SRU; call for testing; verify; roll out to releases
and work with jamie on ia32 update
 * tested weave 0.5 - which seems to rock
 * firefox/xulrunner security update; preparation, testing, rollout
 * firefox 3.5 transition
  * xulrunner-dev package migration
  * backported various xulrunner rdepends: ruby-gnome2, videolink,
virt-viewer, yelp, packagkit, sugar-hulahop, swt-gtk, miro, moon (aka
#moonlight-plugin-mozilla), mozvoikko, gtk-vnc, kazehakase,
libgtk2-mozembed-perl, gnome-python-extras, gluezilla, gnome-web-photo,
chmsee ...
  * fix various transitional issues
  * fixed safe-browsing not working in firefox 3.5
 * flashplugin-installer security update sponsored
 * worked with bdrung on more mozilla-devscripts magic
 * fix langpack-o-matic po2xpi transformer to support zh-trans etc.
 * discuss mozilla translation process with dpm
 * review lp:bindwood and suggested to install it on demand rather than
by default
 * look into and fixed issues producing translation templates for webfav
 * nspr 4.8 update for karmic
 * fixed nspluginwrapper to use system libs to unbreak
flashplugin-installer package on amd64 after latest ia32-libs security
update in karmic

Net:
 * uploaded new network-manager, network-manager-applet 0.7 snapshot
(final for karmic)
 * uploaded new mobile-broadband-provider-info package
 * work with tony on modemmanager and network-manager/-applet 0.8; NEWed
them, fixed packaging bugs and get it pre-promoted for alpha4
 * libmbca removal from karmic (superseded by NM wizard itself)
 * worked with tony on latest connman updates

Misc:
 * gnome-bluetooth vs. blueman testing during sprint; decision:
gnome-bluetooth; seed it and get the bits pre-promoted accordingly;
drafted MIR
 * more notify-osd memleaks fixed
 * travelling to and back from sprint
 * sprinting in dublin
 * a few MIR reviewed
 * fixed telepathy-butterfly install problems and forwarded patch
upstream
 * discussed policy incompliance of bzr bd using '''get-orig-source'''
to '''get-current-source''' with james_w and suggested diligent way to
move forward
 * review spec task items for burndown chart, postponing a few and
setting a bunch more to DONE

=== Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) ===
 * langpack-o-matic:
  * tweak the scripts for zh langpack split (lots of trial and error)
  * build new language packs for Karmic
  * build new language pack updates for Jaunty
 * translations:
  * cleaned the Rosetta import queue (templates)
  * started to look at outstanding imports (translations) in the import
queue and investigate why they are still stuck.
  * fixed some of those outstanding imports
  * filed bugs about buggy translations in source packages
  * documented everything on the wiki
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Internationalisation#Verifying%20translation%20uploads)
 * language-selector:
  * adding code to pull related translation packages when language-packs
are installed
  * discuss mockup for the UI changes in Karmic with mpt
  * finalize the spec (already approved)
 * misc:
  * travel to the sprint and back
  * sprinting in Dublin
  * looking into apport hooks for font issues, input methods and
translations
  * various discussions during the sprint

=== Bryce Harrington (bryce) ===

 * Karmic sprint
 * Most of week spent helping numerous people troubleshoot X and X-like
bugs
 * -ati driver bug triage
 * Packaged new -fglrx
 * Packaged -ati/mesa/libdrm/kernel into kms PPA for testing
 * Developed video display symptom script for apport-symptoms

=== Chris Cheney (calc) ===

 * OEM work
 * OOo bug triage

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===

done:
 * plasma-netbook package updates, MIR, testing, adding to seeds
 * Set default settings in kubuntu-netbook to use plasma-netbook and mid
kwin engine
 * Removing hal-cups-utils from the seeds and package depends to fix
live FS builds
 * packaging and testing plasma-widget-indicatordisplay, write MIR
 * packaging and testing konversation patches for message indicator
display
 * try to make the opendesktop plasmoid useful in a default install,
failed alas, will talk to upstream about API restrictions
 * fix code problems in plasma default layout patch after feedback from
upstream
 * fix overlapping files in oxygen-icons/step
 * review and upload new indicator applet and -messages and libdbusmenu
for Ted
 * fix kdegames compile
 * package and/or upload KDE 4.3 extragear packages

todo:
 * day off on tuesday 11th (travel swap day)
 * alpha release

=== Ken VanDine (kenvandine) ===

===== Done: =====
 * Karmic sprint
 * UNR work
 * xsplash packaging, testing, etc
 * evolution-couchdb debugging and patch review
 * desktopcouch release and packaging
 * indicator-sus packaging and release

===== Todo: =====
 * investigate indicator-sus-applet
 * vacation 13-17

=== Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) ===

==== Accessibility ====
 * Further work on the gnome-speech replacement specification. Discussed
work items with pitti and Rick at the sprint, and postponed a few that
are not imperative for karmic. Also managed to get all client API speech
server spawning code written, just needs a little more testing before
its uploaded. This took a fair amount of time at the sprint, mostly due
to my coding inexperience and debugging.
 * More empathy testing, to identify what themes are usable with orca.
Luckily it seems the default theme that is used is accessible out of the
box. Orca will need scripts to work with empathy properly however.
 * Updated gnome-orca, mousetweaks, and gok to 2.27.90 in karmic.

==== Audio ====
 * Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa
userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
 * Discussed Kees' requests re rtkit and getting it into main with pitti
at the sprint, and have a better idea of what needs to be changed for it
to be acceptable in main.
 * Updated pulseaudio to 0.9.16~test4 in karmic, and with the help of
Daniel Chen, triaged bugs that were filed after users updated to the new
version.
 * Further testing of bluetooth audio and the gnome applet during the
sprint, to help with the final bluetooth applet decision.
 * Found a bug when switching bluetooth profiles with pavucontrol and
pulseaudio. Need to get a backtrace to further help debugging.
 * Identified a regression with the headphone jack on my notebook under
2.6.31-4 and 2.6.31-5 kernels. Need to find the newest kernel that
works, and bisect the source to identify the problem commit, to help get
it fixed.
 * Uploaded a few ALSA fixes that Daniel Chen picked from upstream, to
help with PulseAudio stability.

=== Martin Pitt (pitti) ===

=== Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) ===

=== Sebastien Bacher (seb128) ===

 * dublin distro sprint
  * lot of discussions with dxteam, got some changes and new components
in karmic
  * looked at how to measure login speed with pitti
  * looked at apport interactive hooks with pitti, added a sound one to
totem
  * sponsored new gdm with gdmsetup from robert_ancell
  * discussion with other people, testing, some updates

 * backported a gtk change to fix gdm redrawing issues
 * backport a rhythmbox change to show notifications by default
 * newed xsplash for the dxteam (thanks lool for doing a second review
and the upload)
 * uploaded robert_ancell gnome-panel and nautilus changes for xsplash
 * uploaded a fixed poppler the previous upload dropped a change
required
 * GNOME 2.27.90 updates: gtkhtml evolution-data-server evolution
gnome-keyring pango gvfs gedit file-roller libsoup zenity cheese
 * backported a cheese git change to fix an installation issue
 * catching up after the sprint

 * sponsoring: libnotify notification-daemon evolution-indicator
desktopcouch nautilus epiphany-browser xchat telepathy-butterfly
indicator-messages gdm listen gnome-panel nautilus gconf f-spot seahorse

=== Tony Espy (awe) ===

Net:

 * worked with asac on:
  * packaging and uploading the latest network-manager/-applet 0.8
snapshots to karmic.
  * packaging and uploading the latest snapshot of modemmanager to
karmic.
 * re-worked the get-orig-source targets in network-manager/-applet, and
modemmanager, also added get-current-source targets for all three.
 * submitted MIR bugs for obexd and gnome-bluetooth
 * Debugged my Macbook Pro keyboard problems again 
 * Discussed Connman with David Mandal wrt UNR
 * Discussed Karmic Network UI Spec with David Siegal, made changes to
document and requested new icons from Ken.
 * Tested gnome-bluetooth, couldn't re-create settings daemon crash, but
managed to find a new volume-control crash
( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/384524 )
while testing. 
 * Review Network UI spec task items for burndown chart, postponing a
few and setting a bunch more to DONE 
Misc:

 * travel to/from Karmic Sprint

=== Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) ===

(Activity of last two weeks)

 * 3 days of the Sprint
 * Made Bluetooth printing working by applying several fixes to the
bluez package (LP: #411610)
 * Tested Bluetooth connectivity of HTC P3650 mobile phone: connects,
one can browse file system, but not download files (LP: #409453)
 * Tested Bluetooth mice and presenters: Mogo Mouse, Mogo Presenter
Mouse, iOne Libra N1 Presenter
 * Bought Mogo Presenter Mouse as part of the Bluetooth testing program
 * Uploaded new CUPS package, especially to fix LP: #409962 which made
printing in Karmic not working at all. The upload also contains fixes
done by pitti and me last week and which pitti did not upload before his
vacation
 * Uploaded new system-config-printer package to let a printer connected
by USB and Bluetooth appearing as one printer with two connection types
in the list of discovered printers.
 * Reported my package upload permission status to Colin Watson and
Daniel Holbach on their request, for the archive reorganization.
 * Uploaded HPLIP 3.9.8.




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