ubuntu-desktop Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12

Ryan Dickie goalieca at gmail.com
Fri Apr 14 03:39:00 BST 2006

I came into a rather nasty issue myself today with running KDE in
Gnome but its been happening as long as i can remember. DCOP just
don't work well outside of KDE. In fact, i had to delete my
.ICEauthority file because gnome stopped working (and wouldn't start
again). Not really a desktop issue though.

But i do agree that it would be nice if kubuntu and ubuntu and xubuntu
would be as normal as possible when you install another desktop.
Starting with Ubuntu and installing kde stuff is very different from
starting with Kubuntu and installing gnome stuff. In each case the
other environment just doesn't get it right and leaves many issues.

It would be nice if there was a kubuntu-meta and ubuntu-meta and
xubuntu-meta package which would have dependencies to install all the
stuff that normally gets installed with the install cd for each. There
may be some conflicts (ie: kdm vs gdm etc.) but that shouldn't be a
big deal. It would make for better coexisting. If such a package
already exists please let me know. I haven't had the time to go
digging around deep into the repos figuring it all out.

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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:03:57 -0400
> From: Lukas Sabota <punkrockguy318 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Polish With Mutliple Desktops
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> Hello!
> I have currently the three main ubuntu desktops installed:
> ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and xubuntu-desktop.  Much work has
> been gone into these to make them as polished as they are.
> But, having multiple desktops installed currently isn't the nicest
> situation.  Here are some inconsistencies between the desktops:
> 1)  Menus.  Just open up your main menu with more than one desktop
> installed.  Go ahead.  Check out all the entries with no icons!  I have
> filed bugs for all of the XFCE4 packages that icons don't show up in
> GNOME, a collective bug about the GNOME icons not showing up in KDE, and
> individual bugs about some KDE icons not showing up in GNOME.
> I'd also live to discuss another point on menus.  Should hiding be
> shared between desktops?  For example, if I hide an icon on the GNOME
> desktop, should it be hidden on XFCE and KDE?  And if I unhide the icon
> on KDE should it appear on XFCE and GNOME?  Is there some sort of
> standard for hidden icons?
> 2) *~ files are respected in both Nautilus and Thunar, but they are
> visible by default on KDE.  I have filed a bug for this behavior.
> 3) A nasty bug when using the qt-gtk engine in KDE leaves GNOME stuck
> using that engine, and it can't be changed without deleting a certain
> file.
> 4) Usplash.  Every -desktop meta package wants to install their own
> usplash theme.  How can I choose the theme I want?
> These are just a few things I noticed after a day of testing.  Perhaps
> we should have a calling for inter-desktop testing.  Having multiple
> desktops needs more polish, because it's one of the benefits on Linux:
> Choice!
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