Request for Ubuntu Doc Leadership

[Pasi Lallinaho]

On 2016-03-21 19:38, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> On 2016-03-16 19:30, David Planella wrote:
>> I'd like to propose some dates for a meeting, to be reviewed around
>> the end of the week to pick a date.
>> ...
>> http://doodle.com/poll/dqsryhnkfwgantb2
> Will the time for the meeting be settled soon?
>
>> And an initial agenda (feel free to edit):
>> http://pad.ubuntu.com/doc-team
> Since the future of the community help wiki is one of the agenda items,
> I'd like to share a couple of thoughts.
>
> When reading the original request for help [1], I have some difficulties
> to identify with the idea that "inability to make decisions" or
> disagreements would *generally* explain the current status of the docs
> team. Possibly those factors have prevented further development of the
> community help wiki.

I can only speak from my own point of view, which is mainly the 
community help wiki, but I have seen similar issues with the other 
documentation areas too. That said, if disagreements aren't a problem 
for the teams you are knowledgeable about, then great; maybe this 
process can help those teams forward as well (since no subteams really 
have as many contributors as I personally think they should).

> The future of the help wiki is a pretty big topic. In the absence of a
> thoughtful suggestion, I doubt that discussing it on the meeting would
> help much. To move the topic forward, I would suggest that someone
> writes down a set of suggestions about how to deal with the help wiki
> going forward, maybe in a blueprint, and that a session to discuss it is
> scheduled for next UOS.

To be honest, even if I'm one of the wiki admins and thus probably care 
the most about the wiki within the team, your suggestion doesn't provoke 
a lot of enthusiasm or motivation to set up any suggestions. This is 
simply because I don't think that will help us resolve anything.

These suggestions have been made before in plenty and people have even 
volunteered to take any actions needed to execute the changes needed. 
Still the situation has always ended in the team disagreeing and nothing 
has been done.

As the above implies, I don't believe the documentation team can resolve 
the community help wiki within the team. In the same spirit, I don't 
think an UOS session without good leadership from outside the team can 
help us going forward either.

If we don't bring up problems when somebody is listening, what's the 
point to organize a meeting anyway?

> [1]
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2016-March/001104.html

Cheers,
Pasi

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