Find-a-task 2.0

Nicholas Skaggs nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com
Tue Feb 2 02:42:14 UTC 2016


I'm sorry -- here I thought no one had read this! Thunderbird decided this
whole thread was spam and killed it --  I found it while cleaning out spam,
wild.

Anyways, Ian I can definitely appreciate your sentiment and hesitancy
towards expanding on the program. Tools don't solve issues; building a
better tool can't fix something if it's broken.

I  agree the idea of 'if you build it, they will come' might not work out
in this sense, but I do think either way F-a-T needs these tweaks if it's
going to be adopted and useful to others. Perhaps it's best to keep the
conversation centered on volunteers then rather than tools. I'll leave this
thread as-is then, and if someone does happen to get an itch, well :-)

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Ian Weisser <ian-weisser at ubuntu.com>
wrote:

> Some great issues raised.
>
> We discussed some of these issues back at UOS Nov 2015.
>
> I have no data, nor even any anecdotes, that *any* current Ubuntu
> volunteer has found their place (or any pace) in the community using
> Find-a-Task. If you know of any, I'd love to know about it.
>
> I also have no data on how many page hits F-a-T gets each month, though
> that should be easy for Canonical IS to tell us. I have recorded only a
> few instances of a guru or mentor recommending a new user to try F-a-T.
>
> I have heard anecdotes of a couple teams updating their information
> with F-a-T, but when I look at the roles and (especially) at the team
> landing pages, I see little change over the past year. Seems to me that
> teams are uninterested in using F-a-T.
>
> My analysis: Gurus aren't referring to F-a-T, and teams aren't ready to
> receive new members from F-a-T.
>
> So I see two possibilities: F-a-T is the wrong solution to the
> underlying problem (declining active volunteers), or F-a-T is an
> ineffective solution to that problem.
>
> The solution of adding more structure to F-a-T leans toward the latter,
> that F-a-T can be improved and become useful. I'll happily help improve
> F-a-T; it makes people in our community happy to build software and to
> bring structure to chaos...even though I still don't think it will
> help.
>
> You see, I lean the other direction. I have for a long time. The
> problem we had in late 2014 (and still seem to have) was declining
> number of active volunteers. That's not a technical problem. That's a
> leadership problem.
>
> I think we can grow the number of active volunteers, without F-a-T,
> without another new tool to write, without yet another mentoring
> program. It's not difficult.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
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