Dialogue and moving forward

Michael Hall mhall119 at ubuntu.com
Thu Jun 18 01:17:32 UTC 2015


The wording on the previous email probably sounds a bit odd, that's
because it was meant for the CC's mailing list, not this one. So, to
make sure everyone is on the same page, this was the result of 2 people
having a conversation, and was meant only to give a summary of that
conversation to those members of the CC who were not online at the time.

Sorry for the mistake and any confusion it might cause. I will say that
I am personally very glad that we are all making progress towards a
resolution and a way forward.

Michael Hall
mhall119 at ubuntu.com

On 06/17/2015 09:00 PM, Michael Hall wrote:
> [CC only]
> 
> Charles and I spoke briefly about #3 on IRC, and I wanted to relay the
> results of that to the rest of the council.
> 
> We agreed that we should let the Kubuntu Council know that we are
> willing to remove the Fridge post as they requested, but that we want to
> discuss with them the wording of notice we would put in it's place, and
> also that we would like to discuss having ScottK's blog post that
> contained our private emails similarly taken offline.
> 
> Importantly neither step would be done, or be required to be done,
> before we meet with them, but rather would be a result that comes out of
> our meeting with them.
> 
> Michael Hall
> mhall119 at ubuntu.com
> 
> On 06/17/2015 05:32 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>> To the Ubuntu Community Council and Community list, from the Kubuntu Council:
>>
>> We've been asked to meet with you. In order to make this a productive
>> session, we say:
>>
>> 1. We believe it is important for Ubuntu to have a KDE flavor, and
>> important for KDE to have an Ubuntu distribution. Therefore if Kubuntu
>> can continue, we should all do what we can to further that.
>>
>> 2. Going over the history of the situation will just raise emotion,
>> rather than engage our creativity. Emotion is a strength, as it fuels
>> our motivation to keep on working. However emotion has no place in
>> laying plans for the future. If each of us is invested in defending
>> our positions and past actions, we will not move forward.
>>
>> 3. The article about Jonathan should be removed from the Fridge, since
>> this is written entirely from the point of view of the UCC. It is a
>> publicity disaster for the Ubuntu community and remains a barrier to
>> good communication. Taking it down is a sign of good faith and the
>> beginning of progress.
>>
>> Can we agree that we have been at odds, but still have common
>> interests, and work together to further those interests?
>>
>> Valorie, for the Kubuntu Council
>>



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