[ubuntu-cloud] Questiong on setup of cluster and node

[Ziv Leyes]

Hi,
I think you should give it a try the way it's supposed to be instead of
giving up.
The ubuntu cloud is meant to be a platform that runs VMs, so what you're
trying to do is to run a VM platform from within a VM host!
As a no so related allegory, is like installing WindowsXP, then run
VirtualBox, create a new machine, install Win7 and install VirtualBox inside
it, and then expect that this VirtualBox will satisfy your needs...

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Stephen Liu <satimis at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Ahmed,
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> > Two get a "supported" installation, you'd need 2 PCs minimum.
> > PC-1 To act as cloud controller, cluster controller and
> > storage (walrus, SC)
> > PC-2 To act as "node". You can later on add as many nodes
> > as you want
>
> > I would be quite hesitant to install any of those as "VMs".
>
> I succeeded installing cluster as VM of PC-1.  It is running and can be
> connected on browser remotely via Internet.  But I failed to get the node
> running as VM of PC-1, in the same PC.
>
> I'll try installing a node as VM of PC-2 later.  If failure making the
> cloud to
> work I would stop testing cloud computing until solution discovered.
>
>
> > There are hacks to install everything on one node, but
> > they're just hacks
>
> Running virtualization?
>
>
> Cloud computing is NOT a new technology, only the main frame and terminals
> on
> the service provider's server.  This is a technology of yesterday tracing
> back
> to Utility Computing, Grid Engine, etc, several years back. I tested the
> later
> at least 4~5 years ago. At that time they were run by universities sharing
> data.
>
>
> I found following thread:-
> The Enterprise Cloud: How to Build a Server Demo
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6lvKnbws78&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=sIemMxnTfDk
>
>
> Created by Terremark showing how to create a server on Web.
>
> Previously I did it in another way creating several servers (nodes), Linux
> and
> Windows, on VirtualBox/KVM. Users have full access to the servers over
> Internet
> with the IP address and password provided, on command line and GUI (RDP).
>
>
> I think the concept is more or less the same.  I have following doubt :-
>
> Can the user have full knowhow and experience on monitoring and configuring
> the
> server? If YES he/she would build the server themselves, not to down/buy a
> server.
>
> I will be happy to see what new technology will be added to cloud computing
> in
> the not too distant future.
>
>
> B.R.
> Stephen L
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ahmed Kamal <ahmed.kamal at canonical.com>
> To: ubuntu-cloud <ubuntu-cloud at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 5:51:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Questiong on setup of cluster and node
>
> On 10/23/2010 01:00 PM, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm a little bid confused on the setup of Enterprise Cloud.  Cluster and
> node
> > can't coexist on the same PC which is my finding.
> >
> > 1)
> > PC-1 for cluster
> > Cluster can be installed on VM which is my finding.
> >
> >
> > PC-2 for node
> > I suppose node can also be installed on VM, but NOT on the same PC with
> >cluster.
> >
> > What about if I need adding more nodes whether I need adding more PCs?
>  Or
> >nodes
> > can coexist on the same PC running as VMs?  If it needs adding more PCs
> then
> > better go away from Cloud.
> >
> Hey Stephen,
>
> Two get a "supported" installation, you'd need 2 PCs minimum.
> PC-1 To act as cloud controller, cluster controller and storage (walrus,
> SC)
> PC-2 To act as "node". You can later on add as many nodes as you want
>
> I would be quite hesitant to install any of those as "VMs". There are
> hacks to install everything on one node, but they're just hacks
>
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