Re-imagining

[Darcy Casselman]

To me, it isn't about "nationalism" as it is about right-sizing a local
*online* community.

Keep in mind, we're happily chugging away at Ubuntu Waterloo, with regular,
cool, fun, well-attended events.  I'm all for city teams.  I gots one.
It's great.

The term "LoCo" is ambiguous, because the LoCo council refuses to
acknowledge the importance of groups in cities.  Or, more accurately, would
rather deal with a maximum couple hundred large teams than a few thousand
smaller ones (if they're lucky).

All Ubuntu Canada is, really, is a bunch of online resources.
Lower-traffic social and support channels.  That's about it.

I do believe there is value in having this mailing list here.  This last
week aside, it's been in a bit of a lull lately, but I think being able to
talk with, help out and encourage Ubuntu enthusiasts across the country is
valuable.  I met the Montreal guys on IRC which led to meeting up with them
IRL when I was there.  Not everybody is in a city, but I think everybody
should have a community they can feel they're a part of.  I kinda like
having that, anyway.

If nationalism enters into it, it's in the fact that, for some reason, I'm
actually more interested in what you guys are doing in Vancouver than I am
in what's going on in Rochester or Detroit, despite those places being
three hours' drive away from me rather than Vancouver's (optimistically) 3
days.

I mean, you guys are here, right?

But like I said when I started this thread, I'm not certain it's living up
to the promise.  If people think it should be disbanded, we can shut down
the list and abandon the IRC channel, no problem.  Means I don't have to be
nagged about the daily list spam anymore.

Darcy.


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:39:00PM -0700, Randall Ross wrote:
> > Ubuntu is not a national construct. It has nothing to do with our flag.
> > It does not care if your government is in Ottawa or in Tripoli or in
> Taipei.
>
> I completely agree. Nationalism is abstract and divisive. The idea of
> marrying the LoCo with nationalism is anachronistic. Whether it was called
> Petrograd, Leningrad, or Saint Petersburg, the city is still there. The
> Soviet Union, like all nations, come and go, but cities stand the test of
> time better because the people in them are real and exist beyond abstract
> identifiers. If a LoCo is to survive, it needs to move past the
> anachronisms. Randall is right. LoCos at the city level make far more
> sense. Moreover, for those who do not live near a large city, there is
> nothing to stop someone from creating a LoCo catch-all for minorities in
> rural areas in a given locality.
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