Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?

geo yaktur at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 25 00:40:29 UTC 2008


We just got back home now, it's after 8:30.

These are the ones which Synaptic reported I did not have installed:

apache2-doc
php5-curl
php5-idn
php5-json (cannot find it, doesn't show up in Synaptic)
php5-memcache
php5-ming
php5-ps
php5-pspell
php5-recode
php5-snmp
php5-sqlite
php5-tidy
php5-xmlrpc
php5-xsl
libmysqlclient15-dev

Everything else is already installed. In my previous message I referred only to php.

You would think that when going to Synaptic, searching for "php" or "php5" would automatically choose the correct components - yet these were clearly not installed.

If these are required, yet not installed while others are installed, then something is in error in the Synaptic listing and how it cross-references packages to files and I don't know why. It would take a computer to remember all of these odd file names, there's no way a human being could do it.

That "rapache" sounds like a great idea! I hope it develops well.

I've been wrestling with this for the past 3 weeks now (yup, 3 weeks) and it's taken a lot of time away from my wife and family, my evenings and weekends. I would keep asking for more detail, more clarity at the launchpad help site and all I would get is more tutorials which I couldn't possibly even begin to understand.

After this length of time someone finally told me there are mailing lists! Who knew!

I have Synaptic installing these packages now (except for the one php5-json because it simply does not show up when I search for it). I'll try this and see if anything - ANYTHING - works at all. You can't imagine how frustrating it is when everyone tells you it should work and the darned software makes a liar out of everyone and simply refuses to do anything, it's enough to make you throw the computer into the lake!

If successful, I'll post to that effect.

geo



--- On Tue, 6/24/08, volksman <v0lksman69 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: volksman <v0lksman69 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?
To: yaktur at yahoo.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:46 PM

You have some but not all this is the complete list to get Joomla 
running as per my note I sent earlier:

apache2
apache2-doc
apache2-mpm-prefork
apache2-utils
libexpat1
ssl-cert
libapache2-mod-php5
php5
php5-common
php5-curl
php5-dev
php5-gd
php5-idn
php-pear
php5-imagick
php5-imap
php5-json
php5-mcrypt
php5-memcache
php5-mhash
php5-ming
php5-mysql
php5-ps
php5-pspell
php5-recode
php5-snmp
php5-sqlite
php5-tidy
php5-xmlrpc
php5-xsl
phpmyadmin
mysql-server
mysql-client
libmysqlclient15-dev

I believe your problem package right now is libapache2-mod-php5 which 
isn't in your list but is needed to tell Apache to use PHP.  However if 
you don't have all the above you are likely to run into problems later.

BTW:  I'm not going to get into a pissing match about what OS does what 
in a certain way.  Fact is GNU/Linux has traditionally been used by sys 
admins running headless servers (IE command line, all text, no 
windows).  It was only two months ago that Ubuntu released their first 
LTS server product (which still runs headless if you install by CD).  
You can add a desktop later if you want.  Up to that point their main 
focus for 4 years was bringing desktop environments to the average user, 
not server environments.  So the interface just hasn't been built to 
allow average users to setup and maintain server products without a 
little hassle yet.  You think this is hard.  Try setting up a mail server. 

However that said Ubuntu members are working this very problem:  
http://en.emanuele-gentili.com/index.php/2008/06/14/rapache-is-born/

Very new (not sure there is even a release yet) but I bet the author 
would like to have some n00bish input to the program.  That's why Ubuntu 
rules.

Best of luck.  Let us know how it goes.

geo wrote:
> I'm at home now, I have to go out with my wife to pick up some stuff 
> in town - but this is just a quick note.
>
> I have the following packages installed - I'm looking at my Synaptic 
> Package manager right now.
>
> libct3
> php5-mcrypt
> php-auth
> php-http
> php-http-request
> php-net-socket
> php-net-url
> phppgadmin
> screem
> wwwconfig-common
> libapache2-mod-php5
> libgtksourceview2.0-common
> libgtksourceview-common
> notification-daemon
> php5
> php5-cgi
> php5-cli
> php5-common
> php5-dev
> php5-gd
> php5-mysql
> php5-pgsql
> php-sybase
> phpmyadmin
> php-pear
>
> Is this a correct installation? Should Joomla install then?
>
> Because it certainly does appear that php should be all installed, 
> right???
>
> I still cannot run anything that ends in .php and I've installed this 
> stuff like 3 weeks ago, for 3 weeks it's been not working. I don't

> understand why this doesn't work if I've installed it by the
Synaptic.
>
> geo
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 6/24/08, Mark W. Law /<bear at wightman.ca>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Mark W. Law <bear at wightman.ca>
>     Subject: Re: Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?
>     To: yaktur at yahoo.com
>     Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:59 AM
>
>     Do you have PHP installed and configured in Apache on your server?  I
am 
>     getting the dreaded 'what do you want me to do with this
page?' error
>     from 
>     your machine.
>
>     Mark
>
>     On Tuesday 24 June 2008 09:37:42 you wrote:
>     > My home computer IS the server. The whole family uses it for
e-mails,
>     chat,
>     > music, etc.....but I also (through some pure luck?) managed to
get Apache
>     > running on it. 
>     > But I cannot make Joomla do anything!
>     >  
>     >
>      http://georutkay.homelinux.org/Joomla/
>     >  
>     > I got this far. But software complexity is constantly
stonewalling me.
>     And
>     > I don't know what else to try and open PHP files with. If not
Firefox,
>     then
>     > what must they be opened with to permit Joomla to install? 
>     > Or is the Joomla installer corrupted? How can I know?
>     >  
>     > geo
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Phil Thornley <phil at pncpublishing.com>
wrote:
>     >
>     > From: Phil Thornley <phil at pncpublishing.com>
>     > Subject: Re: Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?
>     > To: yaktur at yahoo.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users
Community"
>     > <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008,
9:04 AM
>     >
>     >
>     > geo,
>     >
>     > When it comes to working with PHP files, they must be put into
your WWW
>     > root folder and opened by accessing the localhost (or domain
name) of your
>     > web
>      server.
>     >
>     > You are not looking for phpmysqladmin, you need to look for
phpmyadmin
>     > which is the system for working with mysql through php. Again
these files
>     > need to be put into your WWW root folder and accessed through
your web
>     > server, not directly via Firefox (it only reads them as standard
files
>     > without the use of a web server).
>     >
>     > Phil
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > geo wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I'm on a bit of a time-budget so if I can't get this
working in a
>     month or
>     > two, I have no choice but to give up on it and get on to other
tasks which
>     > will become much more pressing in the near future, one of those
tasks
>     > includes finishing up the wireless network of the Windows
computers at the
>     > farm properties - quite a task.
>     >
>     > I simply don't have the luxury of trying to do this
"that
>     way". It's not in
>     > the cards.
>      Sorry.
>     >
>     > geo
>     >
>     > Hi Again:
>     > >From the Language that you are using, you seem to be doing
very
>     complex
>     >
>     > things in the other operating systems. Linux is the thing you are
>     > interested in, so take a bit of time to learn some of the basics
with it
>     > before trying to do the same kind of very complex things, with
Linux.
>     > Not doing this
>     >  makes the learning curve Slew Rate very sudden. You are
>     > talking about PHP, and that is a very thick Book, and SQL, and
that is a
>     > very thick book, and you are a Noob to Linux too, and that is a
very
>     > thick Book. Learn a bit of Linux just by it's self. Now the
Learning
>     > curve is very gradual. Then when you've mastered the GUI of
your
>     Choice,
>     > and a bit of the shell, then Start with SQL. After you got the
basics
>     > with that then go to PHP. Then what people tell you will make
some
>     > sense, in the
>      Linux way of looking at it. The lingo is a bit different
>     > in Linux, and after some basics you will know what people are
saying
>     > when you go on a forum.
>     >
>     > Make things a bit simple, it's not that you are simple, it
just makes
>     it
>     > easy to grasp the concepts in Linux this way.
>     >
>     > Alfred!
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: geo <yaktur at yahoo.com>
>     > Reply-To: yaktur at yahoo.com, The Canadian Ubuntu Users
>     >  Community
>     > <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>     > To: Mark W. Law <bear at wightman.ca>
>     > Cc: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
>     > Subject: Re: Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?
>     > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:26:00 -0700 (PDT)
>     > Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199
>     >
>     >
>     > Sorry, but how do I do this?
>     >
>     > I tried getting phpMySQLAdmin by either Synaptic or by typing
sudo
>     > apt-get install phpMySQLAdmin in the Alt+F2
>      window.
>     >
>     > Nothing. It doesn't exist in either place.
>     >
>     > But even if it did, how would i create a new blank database? I
don't
>     > know any of this stuff.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > geo
>     > PS: Sorry if I came off as a little testy before, this thing just
EATS
>     > so much of my time just to experiment and fail at it again and
again.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         - download and install phpMySQLAdmin (used to admin MySQL
>     > databases)
>     >
>     >         - In phpmysqladmin create a new blank database and call
it, say,
>     >
>     >  'joomla'
>     >
>     >         - Point your browser to http://localhost/[NAME OF THE
FOLDER YOU
>     >         CREATED]/index.php
>     >
>     >         - Follow the prompts to
>     >          install Joomla (it will want the name of the blank
>     >         database you just created)
>     >
>     >         :)
>     >
>     >         M.
>     >
>     >      
>        On Monday 23 June 2008 20:16:34 you wrote:
>     >         > Hi Mark
>     >         >
>     >         > Ok, I've downloaded Joomla and extracted it to a
folder
>     on my
>     >
>     > desktop.
>     >
>     >         > I don't know how to install it though.
>     >         >
>     >         > Joomla isn't in Synaptic so I had to download it
from the
>     >
>     > website.
>     >
>     >         > There are several files:
>     >         >
>     >         > CHANGELOG.php
>     >         > configuration.php-dist
>     >         > COPYRIGHT.php
>     >         > globals.php
>     >         > htaccess.txt
>     >         > index.php
>     >  >
>     >  > index2.php
>     >  >
>     >         > INSTALL.php
>     >         > LICENSE.php
>     >         > mainbody.php
>     >         > offline.php
>     >         > offlinebar.php
>     >         > pathway.php
>     >         >
>      robots.txt
>     >         >
>     >         > ....as well as several folders.
>     >         >
>     >         > When I double-click on INSTALL.php, it opens Firefox
and then
>     >
>     > Firefox
>     >         keeps
>     >
>     >         > asking what to do with INSTALL.php: Open with
Firefox or save
>     to
>     >
>     >          disk?
>     >
>     >         > So I keep clicking "Open" and it just
repeats and
>     >
>     > repeats.
>     >
>     >         > What do I do with this Joomla then?
>     >         >
>     >         > Thanks,
>     >         > geo
>     >
>     > No virus found in this incoming message.
>     > Checked by AVG.
>     > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date:
6/23/2008
>     > 7:16 PM
>
>


      
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