Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?

[Leigh Honeywell]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 07:46:54PM -0400, volksman wrote:
> BTW:  I'm not going to get into a pissing match about what OS does what 
> in a certain way.  Fact is GNU/Linux has traditionally been used by sys 
> admins running headless servers (IE command line, all text, no 
> windows).  It was only two months ago that Ubuntu released their first 
> LTS server product (which still runs headless if you install by CD).  

Wait what?  How bout 6.06 LTS?  I was running it on my servers until
8.04 came out...

> You can add a desktop later if you want.  Up to that point their main 
> focus for 4 years was bringing desktop environments to the average user, 
> not server environments.  So the interface just hasn't been built to 
> allow average users to setup and maintain server products without a 
> little hassle yet.

I'd love to hear of a distro that has "average-user-accessible" server
config stuff.  I mean, there's webmin, but that's not a distro-specific
thing.

>You think this is hard.  Try setting up a mail server. 

You're clearly a sendmail user :)  It took me about 15 minutes as a
complete newb to get postfix up and running.  Dovecot-IMAP took another
20.

-Leigh