Big Box Linux

Rouben rouben at rouben.net
Tue Apr 8 21:51:07 UTC 2008


This is in response to Paul's BigBox Linux annnouncement. Actually any
startup in the Linux software/hardware market could find this
potentially useful... I hope.

Speaking from a business perspective, OS marketing (as in, "Linux
works, honest!") is not at all your biggest hurdle. I think you should
be targeting educational institutions and focusing more on the thin
client/media box market. I have to admit, I am a tad biased, since I
work at U of T. :) Here are some ideas that I hope you will find
useful...

Some selling points/ideas...
* Must be able to deal in bulk (especially with universities)
* Must be cheaper in bulk than major competitors (the way it works is
that most educational institutions have preferred vendors and they
have to justify purchases from non-preferred vendors... if you're
substantially cheaper, you win).
* Support, support, support. Be prepared to have very quick turnaround
time on spare parts, service, etc. If you can set up a mail order
system where you ship the replacement part and then the client ships
you the defective part and absorb the cost of shipping (courier
preferred) then you have a chance to compete with guys like Dell in
the education market.
* Be flexible: be willing to help clients transition (or sometimes
not) from Windows. Be prepared to ship computers with Windows (and/or
Ubuntu) dual-booting.
* Offer "virtual" desktops, where Ubuntu runs on the bare metal with
VMWare/VirtualBox serving up Windows XP. The run something like
BackupPC in coordination with VMWare Snapshots to offer a
comprehensive backup strategy with point-in-time restore ability. Sell
that with a NAS rig as a nice low-cost disaster recovery package.
* Think about "small business in a box" type turnkey solutions. Offer
up packages that include some initial consulting to get small
businesses started... maybe get a hosting reseller package, and offer
webhosting as well (managed IT services outsourcing).
* Media servers and Mythbuntu appliances! Maybe team up with Koolu
(www.koolu.com) to offer custom built media servers? That might be a
good chance to sell a NAS appliance and/or a home networking package
as well.

Perhaps Ubuntu should have a team/mailing list for open source
business ideas/discussions such as this?

Rouben

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>    1. Big Box Linux (Paul Baranowski)
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>    3. Re: loading ubuntu 7.10 (Eugene Cormier)
>    4. Re: loading ubuntu 7.10 (Eric Cyr)
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:50:29 -0400
>  From: Paul Baranowski <paul at bigboxlinux.com>
>  Subject: Big Box Linux
>  To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>  Message-ID: <47FBA255.8010101 at bigboxlinux.com>
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>  Hi everyone,
>  I've recently started a business selling customizable Ubuntu Desktops.  I
>  started this business because I love Ubuntu and believe in open source; I think
>  Linux is finally ready for the masses because of Ubuntu.  If you are looking to
>  buy a system where *all* the hardware works out-of-the-box, then please consider
>  a computer from Big Box Linux.  We are based in Toronto, ON.
>
>  The systems we offer come with the following software installed, over and above
>  the default Ubuntu install:
>   * 3D Desktop effects
>   * Hibernate & suspend support
>   * Pre-installed codes and fonts
>   * Wireless LAN & Bluetooth
>   * Compatible printers
>   * Skype & webcam support
>   * DVD authoring tools
>   * Flash player
>   * Adobe Reader
>   * Skype
>   * Google Earth
>   * Wine
>   * 3D games (optional)
>   * and more...
>
>  Each machine can be customized to your liking.  Feel free to give me a call if
>  you are interested, or check out the web page: http://bigboxlinux.com
>
>  People often ask me "I thought just about everything works out of the box on
>  Linux, whats the problem?"
>
>  Here is a list of things which may not work under Linux if you buy any random
>  computer (I know because I've been testing the parts):
>   * Motherboard (suspend/hibernate)
>   * DVD drive (suspend/hibernate)
>   * Hard drive (suspend/hibernate)
>   * 3D graphics card
>   * Ethernet port
>   * Webcam
>   * Wireless card
>   * Printer
>
>  In short, you are only guaranteed your processor and RAM will work.
>
>  We also offer Linux and open source consulting for businesses, including
>  Asterisk VOIP and LAN setup.
>
>  Hope everyone is enjoying their week and keep spreading the Ubuntu love!
>
>  --
>  Paul Baranowski
>  Big Box Linux, Inc.
>  416-619-0874
>  416-628-1252 (Fax)
>  paul at bigboxlinux.com
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 2
>  Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:44:49 -0700
>  From: j&l <j_lp at shaw.ca>
>  Subject: Re: loading ubuntu 7.10
>  To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>  Message-ID: <47FBBD21.5090905 at shaw.ca>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>  I Kevin . My name is John Papineau and I am the technician for Nelson
>  computers and Open source  Technology group . We are situated in Canada
>  in the town of Nelson in the province of B.C.
>
>  solution to your problem :
>
>  *first *check in your bios if the boot setup  show your cd or dvd  has
>  the first boot  device . In the IBM model the bios is sometime access by
>  pressing* F1 key *on your keyboard and releasing it and pressing the key
>  again until you see a message on your computer screen that say
>  *accessing the bios*  . *Then,* look into the bios setup menu of your
>  computer and make sure that your cd or dvd drive is the first drive
>  selected in the boot up menu selection. After you made the proper change
>  to the boot up menu , select the option in the exit menu that say
>  *save change then exit the bios*. After that, the computer  will start
>  again . Now, open your cd or dvd drive and put your Ubuntu disk in the
>  drive then close the drive and press  the 3 following key  one after the
>  other  *CTRL*  *ALT*  *DElete *.  Your  computer  should  restart  and
>  the  ubuntu  disk  should  start  booting .
>
>  I hope this will help you.
>
>  have a good day
>
>  Nelson Computers and Open Source Technology
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Kevin and Nicole McCormick wrote:
>  >
>  > Good day,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I am not very computer savvy so forgive me for any ignorant questions.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 OS and burned to a CD. I recently
>  > received an old IBM Net Vista with a blank hard drive. The computer
>  > has a Pentium 4 processor.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I am attempting to load the Ubuntu onto the blank drive with the CD.
>  > When I turn the computer on I get a message of "no operating system
>  > found. Press F1 for reboot sequence" (maybe not word for word).
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > The CD is running but I do not know how to start the load sequence.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Can you help?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Kevin
>  >
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>  Message: 3
>  Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:23:12 -0300
>  From: Eugene Cormier <eugene.cormier at gmail.com>
>  Subject: Re: loading ubuntu 7.10
>  To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>  Message-ID: <1207682592.6198.2.camel at linux>
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>  Honestly guys....if he's getting a "operating system not found" message
>  I would think that that means that he's got it to boot from the
>  cd....it's just that there is no boot info which could mean either a
>  defective cd or he burnt the iso image to a data disk....If he didn't
>  have the bios boot order set up properly it wouldn't give the error he
>  said, but it would boot immediately into the first OS on his hard disk
>
>  Eugene
>
>
>  On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:44 -0700, j&l wrote:
>  >
>  > I Kevin . My name is John Papineau and I am the technician for Nelson
>  > computers and Open source  Technology group . We are situated in
>  > Canada in the town of Nelson in the province of B.C.
>  >
>  > solution to your problem :
>  >
>  > first check in your bios if the boot setup  show your cd or dvd  has
>  > the first boot  device . In the IBM model the bios is sometime access
>  > by pressing F1 key on your keyboard and releasing it and pressing the
>  > key again until you see a message on your computer screen that say
>  > accessing the bios  . Then, look into the bios setup menu of your
>  > computer and make sure that your cd or dvd drive is the first drive
>  > selected in the boot up menu selection. After you made the proper
>  > change to the boot up menu , select the option in the exit menu that
>  > say   save change then exit the bios. After that, the computer  will
>  > start again . Now, open your cd or dvd drive and put your Ubuntu disk
>  > in the drive then close the drive and press  the 3 following key  one
>  > after the other  CTRL  ALT  DElete.  Your  computer  should  restart
>  > and  the  ubuntu  disk  should  start  booting .
>  >
>  > I hope this will help you.
>  >
>  > have a good day
>  >
>  > Nelson Computers and Open Source Technology
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Kevin and Nicole McCormick wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Good day,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I am not very computer savvy so forgive me for any ignorant
>  > > questions.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 OS and burned to a CD. I recently
>  > > received an old IBM Net Vista with a blank hard drive. The computer
>  > > has a Pentium 4 processor.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I am attempting to load the Ubuntu onto the blank drive with the CD.
>  > > When I turn the computer on I get a message of ?no operating system
>  > > found. Press F1 for reboot sequence? (maybe not word for word).
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > The CD is running but I do not know how to start the load sequence.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Can you help?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Kevin
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  --
>  ****************************************
>  *           Eugene Cormier             *
>  *          Acadia University           *
>  *        www.eugenecormier.com         *
>  *       eugene.cormier at gmail.com       *
>  *       DEN 152, (902) 585-1329        *
>  *    Classical Guitar, Guitar Class,   *
>  *    Guitar Ensemble, Prelim. Rud.     *
>  ****************************************
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 4
>  Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:52:51 -0300
>  From: "Eric Cyr" <1ballistic1 at gmail.com>
>  Subject: Re: loading ubuntu 7.10
>  To: eugene.cormier at gmail.com,   "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community"
>         <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>  Message-ID:
>         <3950c0ee0804081252q431955aajb78e5e6e10e85738 at mail.gmail.com>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>  Only problem with that, is that he specified the HDD was blank:
>  "I downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 OS and burned to a CD. I recently received an
>  old IBM Net Vista with a *blank hard drive*. "
>
>  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Eugene Cormier <eugene.cormier at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>  > Honestly guys....if he's getting a "operating system not found" message
>  > I would think that that means that he's got it to boot from the
>  > cd....it's just that there is no boot info which could mean either a
>  > defective cd or he burnt the iso image to a data disk....If he didn't
>  > have the bios boot order set up properly it wouldn't give the error he
>  > said, but it would boot immediately into the first OS on his hard disk
>  >
>  > Eugene
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:44 -0700, j&l wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I Kevin . My name is John Papineau and I am the technician for Nelson
>  > > computers and Open source  Technology group . We are situated in
>  > > Canada in the town of Nelson in the province of B.C.
>  > >
>  > > solution to your problem :
>  > >
>  > > first check in your bios if the boot setup  show your cd or dvd  has
>  > > the first boot  device . In the IBM model the bios is sometime access
>  > > by pressing F1 key on your keyboard and releasing it and pressing the
>  > > key again until you see a message on your computer screen that say
>  > > accessing the bios  . Then, look into the bios setup menu of your
>  > > computer and make sure that your cd or dvd drive is the first drive
>  > > selected in the boot up menu selection. After you made the proper
>  > > change to the boot up menu , select the option in the exit menu that
>  > > say   save change then exit the bios. After that, the computer  will
>  > > start again . Now, open your cd or dvd drive and put your Ubuntu disk
>  > > in the drive then close the drive and press  the 3 following key  one
>  > > after the other  CTRL  ALT  DElete.  Your  computer  should  restart
>  > > and  the  ubuntu  disk  should  start  booting .
>  > >
>  > > I hope this will help you.
>  > >
>  > > have a good day
>  > >
>  > > Nelson Computers and Open Source Technology
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Kevin and Nicole McCormick wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > Good day,
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > I am not very computer savvy so forgive me for any ignorant
>  > > > questions.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > I downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 OS and burned to a CD. I recently
>  > > > received an old IBM Net Vista with a blank hard drive. The computer
>  > > > has a Pentium 4 processor.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > I am attempting to load the Ubuntu onto the blank drive with the CD.
>  > > > When I turn the computer on I get a message of "no operating system
>  > > > found. Press F1 for reboot sequence" (maybe not word for word).
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > The CD is running but I do not know how to start the load sequence.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Can you help?
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Kevin
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > --
>  > ****************************************
>  > *           Eugene Cormier             *
>  > *          Acadia University           *
>  > *        www.eugenecormier.com         *
>  > *       eugene.cormier at gmail.com       *
>  > *       DEN 152, (902) 585-1329        *
>  > *    Classical Guitar, Guitar Class,   *
>  > *    Guitar Ensemble, Prelim. Rud.     *
>  > ****************************************
>  >
>  >
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