Questions -- or just irritations?

[Brian Burger]

On 12/16/06, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
> Still, months later I have some nagging issues related to a few things
> that Mandriva (or the RPM system) appeared to do better.


These mostly sound more like KDE/Kubuntu bugs than anything else - see
some of my comments below.

1) Using the Kubuntu tools (adept and adept_updater),  I really like the
> automatic update reminder in the KDE panel; however I don't like  that
> the update software tell me _what_ needs to be updated but not why.


Gnome's system updater has a display for the changelog, and also a
panel for a one-liner in (hopefully) English, not Linux Geek, about
why something is being updated. Does KDE's updater not have this extra
panel?

2) When doing an update on one system, clicking "apply updates" does
> everything. On another system, the GUI will freeze after the download
> but before completing the install. I need to go into "show details" and
> see that a text-mode script is showing me a list of bugs and asking me
> if I want to install anyway. I answer yes and the thing completes its run.
> This process is REALLY bad for a number of reasons, especially
> non-intuitive  for newcomers: <<snip>>


Again, this seems more like a KDE bug - I don't think I've ever seen
Gnome's updater 'freeze' like this.

Unless this was a dist-upgrade and not a regular update?

3) I really wish some genuine effort went into the default menu design.
> Having submenus called "more applications" is IMO a tactic admission
> that the existing layout is far more haphazard than it ought to be. If
> you want to see a better example, just see how Mandriva handles its menu
> layout.
>

Sounds like KDE needs what Gnome got during the Dapper dev cycle - a
major revamp of the 'accessory/misc' parts of the menu.

I gather that Mandrivia is KDE-only; it sounds like the Kubuntu folks
should borrow a few ideas from them. Until then, switching DEs to
Gnome might well fix all these irritations...

Brian
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