Core vs. Non-Core definitions

[Geoffrey van Wyk]

On 16/05/2012 04:22, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Whoops, this once again got direct-sent to the person i was replying to...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Thomas Ward* <trekcaptainusa.tw at gmail.com 
> <mailto:trekcaptainusa.tw at gmail.com>>
> Date: Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Core vs. Non-Core definitions
> To: Geoffrey Van Wyk <geoffrey.vanwyk at bernadine.biz 
> <mailto:geoffrey.vanwyk at bernadine.biz>>
>
>
> How would we handle kubuntu-desktop packages?  or xubuntu-desktop 
> packages?  If we restrict core to just ubuntu-desktop, then would bugs 
> which would be "Medium" against Kubuntu or Xubuntu packages 
> automatically be "Low" because at that point they're non-core?
>
> I'm in agreement, any package that is a dependency against 
> [flavor]-desktop should be considered core, but it would be important 
> to handle all the flavors of Ubuntu similarly, no?
>
>
> ------
> Thomas
> LP: trekcaptainusa-tw
> BugSquad Member
> Ubuntu Member
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Geoffrey Van Wyk 
> <geoffrey.vanwyk at bernadine.biz <mailto:geoffrey.vanwyk at bernadine.biz>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Maybe a core application could be one which is a dependency for
>     the ubuntu-desktop package. One such application is Gwibber.
>
>     Geoffrey
>
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     Subject: Core vs. Non-Core definitions
>     From: Thomas Ward <trekcaptainusa.tw at gmail.com
>     <mailto:trekcaptainusa.tw at gmail.com>>
>     To: ubuntu-bugsquad at lists.ubuntu.com
>     <mailto:ubuntu-bugsquad at lists.ubuntu.com>
>     CC:
>
>
>     Hiya, all.
>
>     This came up (during UDS) in a discussion I had with micahg on
>     IRC, and came up again today in #ubuntu-bugs with roadmr.  (NOTE:
>     These are the users' IRC nicks, I do not have their names readily
>     available)
>
>     The definition of a bug's importance includes the difference
>     between core and non-core on this page here:
>     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
>
>
>     There is currently no clear definition of what core or non-core
>     means.  At every time I have run into a bug that needs its
>     importance set, I've avoided identifying whether a bug is related
>     to a core or non-core program (except for Universe and Multiverse
>     package bugs), simply because there is no clear-cut definition of
>     what is or is not core.
>
>     This lack of a definition can sometimes make a recommendation for
>     "medium" actually end up as "low", and vice versa, based on
>     core-vs-noncore.  This makes determining importance that much more
>     difficult.
>
>     Since this is a critical part of determining a bug's importance,
>     we need to, in my opinion, do one of the following::
>     (a) clearly define what applications specifically are or are not
>     core, and update with each release, or
>     (b) define what constitutes a core or non-core
>     application/program, or
>     (c) rewrite the criterion (and therefore the guide) to remove the
>     difference of core vs. non-core and redefine the bug importance
>     criterion accordingly.
>
>     micahg was in agreement with me that this needs to be defined, so
>     I thought I would bring this onto the mailing list for discussion
>     and potentially a final decision be made on this.
>
>
>     So, thoughts?  Opinions?
>
>     ------
>     Thomas
>     LP: trekcaptainusa-tw
>     BugSquad Member
>     Ubuntu Member
>
>
>
>
>
I agree with you. I did not think about the other desktops.

-- 
Geoffrey van Wyk
*Bernadine Software*
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