[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium
kawabill
kawabill at telenet.be
Tue May 6 17:03:34 UTC 2014
How could we best get together;
2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
pick up;
a) kawabill
b) nero
c) Frank Neirynck
d) Tom Verlinden
e) Jan Bongaerts
f) Merlijn Sebrechts
g) Alain Daudrez
You are all invited to come to Houthalen on May 27th. Would this work
for all of you?
Rg
William
On 03-05-14 21:11, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote:
> Why not use them all? There are enough applications out there that let
> you post on multiple social media all at once...
>
> On a side note: I'm making a diaspora* node for hackerspace ghent.
> When it's finished, I'll also make an ubuntu-be group there, so we can
> hang out on our own, open source, trustable, distributed social
> platform...
>
>
> 2014-05-03 12:54 GMT+02:00 Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez op gmail.com
> <mailto:a.baudrez op gmail.com>>:
>
> I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ -
> https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is
> idle. Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website
> in the near future, we could at least use the events options of
> our Google+ page to announce what we plan to do.
>
> Same goes for our FB page -
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/ . There is a bit more
> 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
>
> I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after
> installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of)
> those pages into Dutch and French and post them on those two
> social media, It would be a start.
>
> The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
> With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting
> down their G+ social network, and on the other side some users not
> trusting Facebook, which way must we go?
>
>
> 2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol op gmail.com
> <mailto:duraypol op gmail.com>>:
>
> Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
>> Goede middag .
>>
>> Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een
>> vraag stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar
>> Ubuntu.nl of Ubuntu.fr ?".
>> Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be>
>> ? Anders ga ik daar eens vragen wat ik kan doen.
>> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op
>> Ubuntu)(ik ben geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>
>> C'est tout !!
>>
>> MIVG Luc R
>> Luc Rulkin
>> Bergstraat 6
>> B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>
>> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not
>> being talked about.
>> (O Wilde)
>> On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden
>> <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> <mailto:tom.verlinden op gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my
>> thinking cap on and see what i an come up with. Anybody
>> having a problem with bill's proposal?
>> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
>> <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be
>> <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>>:
>>
>> I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to
>> accomodate... people living near train stations on
>> our group might too...
>>
>> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is
>> pregnant and due for June 4th) but I'm pretty sure
>> Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be
>> <http://hackerspace.be/>) would be glad to offer you
>> a chair in the space or the garden...
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Jurgen.
>>
>> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>> Real life meeting should still take preference over
>>> virtual meeting, if you ask me.
>>> It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I
>>> did it. They were all successful.
>>> Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public
>>> transport.
>>> Brussels is the best.
>>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts
>>> <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com
>>> <mailto:merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny
>>> bit of Drupal. If somebody can give me the right
>>> credentials, I could take a look at it next
>>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website,
>>> I think.
>>> cc) same as aa)
>>> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free
>>> option. If somebody has a sip server, we could
>>> also use a sip client like jitsi.org
>>> <http://jitsi.org/>, which has excellent Ubuntu
>>> support.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill
>>> <kawabill op telenet.be <mailto:kawabill op telenet.be>>:
>>>
>>> Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>
>>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is
>>> not somebody we need, it is us. Also
>>> Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org
>>> and setting clear expectations I agree with,
>>> this way we can prevent disappointment from
>>> and by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the
>>> funeral I would think is just a bit too
>>> early. From the reactions, at least 5-10
>>> people are actively involved and able to help.
>>>
>>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much
>>> written words and I've got no clue how to
>>> get it to work reliably, I think we need to
>>> get together or at least get visual. For
>>> getting together there is the hacker space,
>>> the facilities in Houthalen an hack - even
>>> an old school room in Bree. Is there an open
>>> source alternative to Skype, allowing for a
>>> virtual meeting maybe (I saw Apache's Open
>>> Meeting)? Or what if we organise a
>>> chat/video conference from the 'local'
>>> events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a
>>> way that it's all in sync; ie. every last
>>> Wednesday of the month (convenient for
>>> LImburg, as this is the gathering date already)?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at
>>> fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan ahead I
>>> would think we can get the right and
>>> motivated people involved including this chap
>>> 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how?
>>> YES, but let's indeed make it such that
>>> people see activity - starting with filling
>>> the agenda showing the local activities for
>>> example
>>> 3) What information would you want to see on
>>> the new website? Haven't really given it a
>>> thought, but one thing for sure I would like
>>> to see and that is UP TO DATE information
>>>
>>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting
>>> around the bank account quickly is indeed
>>> opening a new one, and make it one that we
>>> can access and at least have some kind of
>>> redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>>
>>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all
>>> day, it would really be good if we could
>>> talk to each other, preferably face to face.
>>> This way we iterate in seconds rather than
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical
>>> established and strengthened. I work for a
>>> large company and quite a large bunch is
>>> starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop.
>>> Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge
>>> potential, especially for cost savings. I
>>> checked how I could get our purchasing in
>>> contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is
>>> not going to sell the idea if they stick to
>>> how they have approached this up to now. I
>>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have
>>> a wide enough network of enthusiasts and
>>> could easily bundle the network to get
>>> aggressive into offering savings to large
>>> and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>>> concerned I use the software that they have
>>> ubuntu-ed, it is this creation that binds us
>>> - the reason why I spend my time locally to
>>> help people is for ubuntu, and also as a
>>> kind of payback to Canonical because they
>>> have created a magnificent piece of
>>> software. Not only them, but they are for me
>>> one of the main forces behind humanizing
>>> Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth for all
>>> that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard
>>> doesn't seem the best way to help and show a
>>> kind of gratitude.
>>>
>>> Too many words written already, and hail to
>>> he/she who came to this point. How to go
>>> forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get
>>> this going.
>>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it
>>> from going quiet again
>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me
>>> know who disagrees or cannot pick up;
>>> a) kawabill
>>> b) nero
>>> c) Frank Neirynck
>>> d) Tom Verlinden
>>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>> g) Alain Daudrez
>>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>> aa) website is not upto date (whom can
>>> take action and when?)
>>> bb) bank account needs to be corrected
>>> (to open a new one I can pick up the action
>>> and can have it done within two weeks, with
>>> regards to the old one whom can get the
>>> responsible person to help organize it such
>>> that we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get
>>> access and when?)
>>> cc) support point map - remove ghost
>>> accounts and update or allow for updated
>>> information (whom can take action and when?)
>>> dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please
>>> drop me an e-mail where I can come and pick
>>> it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>> ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday
>>> of May (May 28th), we can use Skype, Google
>>> hangout or maybe someone can help build Open
>>> Meeting for Ubuntu (I don't mind planning
>>> and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>>
>>> Let's get this going before we start
>>> root-cause analysis, and when need please
>>> team up where you can. Myself I'm not really
>>> good at using Drupal, I've build my own in
>>> HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and
>>> updating.
>>>
>>> Your comments please?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always
>>>> thought that this certain "somebody" should
>>>> comprise out of more than one person. One
>>>> person can't take this on his or her
>>>> shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm
>>>> reading, for one person to do and be
>>>> succesfull about it. There should be a team
>>>> of somebodies, all doing somewhat the same,
>>>> but in different locations. (Does that make
>>>> sense?) Is there a need for a central
>>>> organ? To me that makes it too complicated
>>>> already, and might create expectations,
>>>> that cannot be fullfilled. Anyway, there's
>>>> need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill
>>>> said. Now we have to figure out how to do
>>>> this in a fun way, i guess.
>>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen
>>>> Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be
>>>> <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>>:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were
>>>> when one single person actually kept
>>>> his shoulders under the project. In the
>>>> past we had a few of these people.
>>>> Thing is: ubuntu-be.org
>>>> <http://ubuntu-be.org/> should set
>>>> clear expectations: what (not) to
>>>> expect: a spokesman, the official
>>>> stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian
>>>> activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>
>>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to
>>>> take leadership, you will quickly have
>>>> a core team of somewhere between 5 and
>>>> 10 or even more if you do a great job.
>>>> If you're willing to take up this
>>>> commitment, you'll be doing Ubuntu-be a
>>>> big favour. Problem is, apparently this
>>>> mythical figure called "somebody" we're
>>>> all talking about and who'll do all the
>>>> practical stuff like maintain the
>>>> website, organise event booths, create
>>>> content, etc... isn't on this list
>>>> anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>>
>>>> Please, do give it a chance. First
>>>> things first - canonical approval is
>>>> not a problem if you can prove you're
>>>> active. I'm assuming someone here will
>>>> be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>> I don't know about organizing a
>>>>> funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be
>>>>> <http://ubuntu.be/> could be a
>>>>> commonplace for those using and or
>>>>> discovering ubuntu but more in a fun
>>>>> sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying
>>>>> this right, but i think you get the
>>>>> picture. There doesn't need to be a
>>>>> central person or spokesman imho.
>>>>> Makes it far too official. The first
>>>>> goal should be, in my humble opinion,
>>>>> to get people to discover ubuntu.
>>>>> Maybe by promoting this list we could
>>>>> get more people discovering the os. As
>>>>> far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu,
>>>>> talk about it and show it to whoever i
>>>>> think might be interrested, give
>>>>> support where i can and drop leaflets
>>>>> in our library. (They're also on
>>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>>> I think that if we do our part any
>>>>> wich way we can, on our little
>>>>> "islands", and use the net, list as
>>>>> our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>>> in the future? Is there still a
>>>>> connection with canonical? How does
>>>>> that work? Hell, typing this gets me
>>>>> all fired up to give this a chance.
>>>>> What do you guys think? Give it some
>>>>> kind of try, or just leave, and do
>>>>> something on our own? (I think we
>>>>> could achieve more together, but i'd
>>>>> like to hear your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef
>>>>> "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be
>>>>> <mailto:kawabill op telenet.be>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got
>>>>> from someone in the community,
>>>>> stating that he rather spent his
>>>>> time otherwise, declining an
>>>>> invitation I had sent him. No
>>>>> problem of course, but it took me
>>>>> to the following page;
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>>
>>>>> No activities are visible for me
>>>>> the visitor, going over the pages
>>>>> it seems that the latest info
>>>>> dates from 2012. I know activities
>>>>> are still going on, organized by
>>>>> enthusiasts on a very local scale,
>>>>> but for me it is not visible
>>>>> whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it a pity, that in the
>>>>> period where MS end of lifes XP I
>>>>> don't see any coordinated activity
>>>>> to get people over into the
>>>>> Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone please comment and give
>>>>> feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>>> and I seem to live life on a
>>>>> desolate space outside of the
>>>>> Ubuntu community?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
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> Er is geen franstaalig kant van ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be>
> Daarom ga ik on ubuntu.fr <http://ubuntu.fr>. Ik vind daar
> alles wat ik hebt nodig. Voor een franstalige
> ubunterosubuntu.fr <http://ubunterosubuntu.fr> is goed gemaakt
> en zeer aktiev. De forum kan u veel solutie geven en de
> documentatie is ook goed gemaakt.
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