[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium
Duray Pol
duraypol at gmail.com
Sat May 3 09:29:01 UTC 2014
Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
> Goede middag .
>
> Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een vraag
> stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar Ubuntu.nl
> of Ubuntu.fr ?".
> Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be ? Anders ga ik daar eens
> vragen wat ik kan doen.
> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op Ubuntu)(ik ben
> geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>
> C'est tout !!
>
> MIVG Luc R
> Luc Rulkin
> Bergstraat 6
> B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>
> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being
> talked about.
> (O Wilde)
> On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden <tom.verlinden at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap
> on and see what i an come up with. Anybody having a problem with
> bill's proposal?
> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
> <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>>:
>
> I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to
> accomodate... people living near train stations on our group
> might too...
>
> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due
> for June 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels
> (hackerspace.be <http://hackerspace.be/>) would be glad to
> offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen.
>
> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>> Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual
>> meeting, if you ask me.
>> It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it.
>> They were all successful.
>> Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>> Brussels is the best.
>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts
>> <merlijn.sebrechts at gmail.com
>> <mailto:merlijn.sebrechts at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of
>> Drupal. If somebody can give me the right credentials, I
>> could take a look at it next week. Mike Morraye knows
>> more about the website, I think.
>> cc) same as aa)
>> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If
>> somebody has a sip server, we could also use a sip client
>> like jitsi.org <http://jitsi.org/>, which has excellent
>> Ubuntu support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill at telenet.be
>> <mailto:kawabill at telenet.be>>:
>>
>> Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>
>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not
>> somebody we need, it is us. Also Juergen's proposal
>> for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent
>> disappointment from and by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be
>> to the funeral I would think is just a bit too early.
>> From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively
>> involved and able to help.
>>
>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written
>> words and I've got no clue how to get it to work
>> reliably, I think we need to get together or at least
>> get visual. For getting together there is the hacker
>> space, the facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an
>> old school room in Bree. Is there an open source
>> alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting
>> maybe (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we
>> organise a chat/video conference from the 'local'
>> events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace, Brugge -
>> can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all
>> in sync; ie. every last Wednesday of the month
>> (convenient for LImburg, as this is the gathering
>> date already)?
>>
>>
>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015?
>> YES, if we can plan ahead I would think we can get
>> the right and motivated people involved including
>> this chap
>> 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but
>> let's indeed make it such that people see activity -
>> starting with filling the agenda showing the local
>> activities for example
>> 3) What information would you want to see on the new
>> website? Haven't really given it a thought, but one
>> thing for sure I would like to see and that is UP TO
>> DATE information
>>
>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around
>> the bank account quickly is indeed opening a new one,
>> and make it one that we can access and at least have
>> some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>
>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it
>> would really be good if we could talk to each other,
>> preferably face to face. This way we iterate in
>> seconds rather than weeks.
>>
>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical
>> established and strengthened. I work for a large
>> company and quite a large bunch is starting to use
>> Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great
>> idea and has huge potential, especially for cost
>> savings. I checked how I could get our purchasing in
>> contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not
>> going to sell the idea if they stick to how they have
>> approached this up to now. I would think, certainly
>> in Europe, they have a wide enough network of
>> enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to
>> get aggressive into offering savings to large and
>> medium size companies. As far as I'm concerned I use
>> the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this
>> creation that binds us - the reason why I spend my
>> time locally to help people is for ubuntu, and also
>> as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only
>> them, but they are for me one of the main forces
>> behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard
>> doesn't seem the best way to help and show a kind of
>> gratitude.
>>
>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she
>> who came to this point. How to go forward? Let's use
>> 8D methodology and get this going.
>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going
>> quiet again
>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who
>> disagrees or cannot pick up;
>> a) kawabill
>> b) nero
>> c) Frank Neirynck
>> d) Tom Verlinden
>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>> g) Alain Daudrez
>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>> 4) Temporary fix;
>> aa) website is not upto date (whom can take
>> action and when?)
>> bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a
>> new one I can pick up the action and can have it done
>> within two weeks, with regards to the old one whom
>> can get the responsible person to help organize it
>> such that we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access
>> and when?)
>> cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and
>> update or allow for updated information (whom can
>> take action and when?)
>> dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an
>> e-mail where I can come and pick it up and get it
>> into my storage garage)
>> ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May
>> (May 28th), we can use Skype, Google hangout or maybe
>> someone can help build Open Meeting for Ubuntu (I
>> don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help
>> setup the technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>
>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause
>> analysis, and when need please team up where you can.
>> Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal, I've
>> build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning
>> up and updating.
>>
>> Your comments please?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought
>>> that this certain "somebody" should comprise out of
>>> more than one person. One person can't take this on
>>> his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what
>>> i'm reading, for one person to do and be succesfull
>>> about it. There should be a team of somebodies, all
>>> doing somewhat the same, but in different locations.
>>> (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a
>>> central organ? To me that makes it too complicated
>>> already, and might create expectations, that cannot
>>> be fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to
>>> promote ubuntu, as Bill said. Now we have to figure
>>> out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
>>> <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
>>> <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>>:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one
>>> single person actually kept his shoulders under
>>> the project. In the past we had a few of these
>>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org
>>> <http://ubuntu-be.org/> should set clear
>>> expectations: what (not) to expect: a spokesman,
>>> the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
>>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>
>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take
>>> leadership, you will quickly have a core team of
>>> somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you
>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up
>>> this commitment, you'll be doing Ubuntu-be a big
>>> favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical
>>> figure called "somebody" we're all talking about
>>> and who'll do all the practical stuff like
>>> maintain the website, organise event booths,
>>> create content, etc... isn't on this list
>>> anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>
>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first
>>> - canonical approval is not a problem if you can
>>> prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>
>>> Grtz,
>>> Jurgen.
>>>
>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just
>>>> yet. Maybe ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be/> could
>>>> be a commonplace for those using and or
>>>> discovering ubuntu but more in a fun sort of
>>>> way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i
>>>> think you get the picture. There doesn't need
>>>> to be a central person or spokesman imho. Makes
>>>> it far too official. The first goal should be,
>>>> in my humble opinion, to get people to discover
>>>> ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could
>>>> get more people discovering the os. As far as
>>>> i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk about it and
>>>> show it to whoever i think might be
>>>> interrested, give support where i can and drop
>>>> leaflets in our library. (They're also on
>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we
>>>> can, on our little "islands", and use the net,
>>>> list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with
>>>> canonical? How does that work? Hell, typing
>>>> this gets me all fired up to give this a
>>>> chance. What do you guys think? Give it some
>>>> kind of try, or just leave, and do something on
>>>> our own? (I think we could achieve more
>>>> together, but i'd like to hear your opinion).
>>>> My 2 cents....
>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill"
>>>> <kawabill at telenet.be <mailto:kawabill at telenet.be>>:
>>>>
>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from
>>>> someone in the community, stating that he
>>>> rather spent his time otherwise, declining
>>>> an invitation I had sent him. No problem of
>>>> course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>
>>>> No activities are visible for me the
>>>> visitor, going over the pages it seems that
>>>> the latest info dates from 2012. I know
>>>> activities are still going on, organized by
>>>> enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for
>>>> me it is not visible whether all of this is
>>>> coordinated.
>>>>
>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where
>>>> MS end of lifes XP I don't see any
>>>> coordinated activity to get people over
>>>> into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback
>>>> or let me know I'm wrong and I seem to live
>>>> life on a desolate space outside of the
>>>> Ubuntu community?
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>> Bill
>>>>
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Er is geen franstaalig kant van ubuntu.be Daarom ga ik on ubuntu.fr. Ik
vind daar alles wat ik hebt nodig. Voor een franstalige
ubunterosubuntu.fr is goed gemaakt en zeer aktiev. De forum kan u veel
solutie geven en de documentatie is ook goed gemaakt.
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