[Ubuntu-be] Silent computers' shop staat er klaar voor!-- Re: ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 82, Issue 16

[martijn cielen]

Hold your horses Wouter. You clearly completely misunderstood my message. I
do give a *** about the work any and all of you do. I thought it was
obvious I was talking about spammers. To clarify again: when someone spams
the ML, I don't give a *** about what they do for the community. It's spam,
and spam should be fought by any means.

On Friday, 21 December 2012, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

> I personally felt offended by the sheer lack of Ubuntu/humanity in the
> responses that followed.
> If one states that he didn't *"give a *** what anyone (corporate or
> individual) has done for anyone/anything"* than that means he doesn't
> care about any of the work I and others have put in to it. I find that
> offensive and take it as a slap in the face.
>
> It shows of a lack of empathy, dignity and respect to others who might or
> might not put more time and effort to things than that person him- or
> herself. Although I would have taken it this way regardless of whom it came
> from, I feel even more offended because it came from somebody who signed
> the code of conduct! A code that starts with following words:
>
> *Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself
> captures the spirit of being human.*
> A code that explicitly states that at all times you should be
> respectful. One that states that disagreement is no excuse for poor
> manners. One that states that you have to take responsibility for your
> words and actions.
>
> I find myself today, struggling to keep believing that any work done here
> is appreciated or even considered to be of any value.
>
> And with this rant and words that might mean more to some than others I
> leave you
>
> Have a nice day all, who knows it might be our last.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Wouter Vandenneucker
>
> 2012/12/21 Jurgen Gaeremyn <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>
>
>  Well,
>
> I didn't consider the initial answer as spam - I did take it as a rather
> weak answer in the sense that there's no further help than only offering to
> make a sale.
>
> I was hoping to get feedback in the sense of: "I'm using *blabla* on my
> computer and *bla* on my Android device and it all works fine doing these
> steps: *blablabla*" Or even: "Buy this device: *SomeDevice*, it contains
> drivers for ubuntu" In extremis it could be: "let me google this for you:
> *keyword 1* *keyword 2* ..."
>
> Obviously, if the solution you're offering is something you developed
> in-house, and thus only offer to your customers... that's also an option,
> and then the shop is he place to be.
>
> Well... but as disappointing as the answer was... the answer "spammer"
> didn't help me any further either.
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen
>
>
> On 21-12-12 13:25, tom verlinden wrote:
>
>   Is there a "code of conduct", guidelines, on how to approach things
> like this?
>  What i'm trying to say is, what if you know a good link/shop/space that
> can help you?
>  What would be the appropriate action to take?
>
>  Needless to say i too disagree with spamming any list, but it's something
> i was asking myself just yet...
>
>
>  2012/12/21 martijn cielen <mcielen at gmail.com>
>
> Jan,
>
>  frankly I don't give a *** what anyone (corporate or individual) has
> done for anyone/anything when they abuse a mailing list to spam.
> When I send messages to this list, I use my personal address, and not my
> commercial one. Ideally, others should do the same.
>
>  Martijn
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Easy now!
> Silent Computers has done more for ubuntu-be than most.
>
>
> 2012/12/20 martijn cielen <mcielen at gmail.com>
>
> spammer
>
> 2012/12/20 Lesia Valèri <lesiavaleri at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> daar is de Silent computers' shop voor!
> Stuurt die dame naar ons toe, wij zullen wel beste oplossing voor vi
>
>
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