[Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

Thu May 19 07:57:34 UTC 2011

Even better would be to have some people start Canonical Belgium ofcourse ;-)
(I'd apply for a job there immediately)

But seen the negative faq item, I guess we're stuck with overpriced
shipping. Guess we could revive the idea of "samenkoop" I launched a
while ago, if we find a decent way to manage this.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
<woutervddn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I doubt canonical will let a loco as Ubuntu-be manage this..
> Ubuntu-fr is way bigger and has a decent structure as well.
> Nevertheless we could ask for that, it would make some things cheaper to
> distribute etc..
>
> grts
>
>
> Wouter
>
>> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:13:21 +0200
>> From: mcielen at gmail.com
>> To: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded
>>
>> We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho
>> prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never
>> to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't
>> have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg.
>>
>> On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let
>> Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we
>> distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge
>> investments. Just an idea.
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <steven at leeman.be> wrote:
>> > I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
>> > unless you can find such a sponsor?
>> > Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <mcielen at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
>> >> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Some more advantages:
>> >>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
>> >> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity
>> >> becomes
>> >> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
>> >>
>> >> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
>> >> quicker too.
>> >>
>> >> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike
>> >> the
>> >> CD. We would have to charge money.
>> >>
>> >> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
>> >> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
>> >> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer
>> >> the
>> >> usage of my bvba.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Jan.
>> >>
>> >> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <woutervddn at hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Steven
>> >>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
>> >>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
>> >>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the
>> >>> idea
>> >>>
>> >>> on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>> >>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting
>> >>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well.
>> >>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I
>> >>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
>> >>> - More durable than a CD
>> >>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
>> >>> - Can be updated
>> >>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you
>> >>> like)
>> >>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising
>> >>> for us. (Free Publicity)
>> >>> - Also works for Netbook owners
>> >>> - Really awesome goodie.
>> >>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu
>> >>> (once
>> >>> we finally create it..)
>> >>> grts
>> >>>
>> >>> Wouter
>> >>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 steven at leeman.be wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me
>> >>> if
>> >>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
>> >>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a
>> >>> 1GB
>> >>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
>> >>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens...
>> >>> Gained
>> >>> another Ubuntero.
>> >>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
>> >>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>> >>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>> >>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
>> >>> 4gbyte usb stick
>> >>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>> >>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
>> >>> following prices:
>> >>> model "Usb Incentive"
>> >>>
>> >>> : http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
>> >>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
>> >>> Price/piece: €7,66
>> >>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> >>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>> >>> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
>> >>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
>> >>> Price/piece €5,26
>> >>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> >>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>> >>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100
>> >>> USB
>> >>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing
>> >>> of the
>> >>> logo in 2 colors.
>> >>> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>> >>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
>> >>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html ...
>> >>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
>> >>> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
>> >>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>> >>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>> >>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them
>> >>> with
>> >>> a small profit...
>> >>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
>> >>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb
>> >>> ports
>> >>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we
>> >>> aren't
>> >>> talking about USB hubs)
>> >>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except
>> >>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a
>> >>> "clock"?)
>> >>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with
>> >>> something
>> >>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
>> >>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
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