[Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

Thu May 19 07:54:38 UTC 2011

I doubt canonical will let a loco as Ubuntu-be manage this..
Ubuntu-fr is way bigger and has a decent structure as well.
Nevertheless we could ask for that, it would make some things cheaper to distribute etc..

grts

Wouter

> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:13:21 +0200
> From: mcielen op gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-be op lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded
> 
> We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho
> prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never
> to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't
> have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg.
> 
> On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let
> Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we
> distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge
> investments. Just an idea.
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <steven op leeman.be> wrote:
> > I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
> > unless you can find such a sponsor?
> > Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <mcielen op gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
> >> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts op gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some more advantages:
> >>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
> >> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
> >> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
> >>
> >> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
> >> quicker too.
> >>
> >> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
> >> CD. We would have to charge money.
> >>
> >> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
> >> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
> >> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
> >> usage of my bvba.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jan.
> >>
> >> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <woutervddn op hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Steven
> >>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
> >>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
> >>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
> >>> on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
> >>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting
> >>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well.
> >>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I
> >>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
> >>> - More durable than a CD
> >>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
> >>> - Can be updated
> >>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
> >>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising
> >>> for us. (Free Publicity)
> >>> - Also works for Netbook owners
> >>> - Really awesome goodie.
> >>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once
> >>> we finally create it..)
> >>> grts
> >>>
> >>> Wouter
> >>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 steven op leeman.be wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if
> >>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
> >>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
> >>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
> >>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
> >>> another Ubuntero.
> >>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
> >>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
> >>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
> >>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
> >>> 4gbyte usb stick
> >>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
> >>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
> >>> following prices:
> >>> model "Usb Incentive"
> >>> : http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
> >>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
> >>> Price/piece: €7,66
> >>> Logo Print: €0,10
> >>> Transport (China): €20,-
> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
> >>> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
> >>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
> >>> Price/piece €5,26
> >>> Logo Print: €0,10
> >>> Transport (China): €20,-
> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
> >>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
> >>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing of the
> >>> logo in 2 colors.
> >>> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
> >>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
> >>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html ...
> >>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
> >>> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
> >>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
> >>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
> >>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with
> >>> a small profit...
> >>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
> >>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
> >>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
> >>> talking about USB hubs)
> >>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except
> >>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
> >>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
> >>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
> >>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
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