[Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

Sat Jun 4 08:02:11 UTC 2011

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Sorry for you, Martijn. Off to the shops it is.
 On Jun 3, 2011 11:54 PM, "martijn cielen" <mcielen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Me getting an Android phone? Like we say in our dialect: when the chickens
> grow teeth :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:49, wouter Vandenneucker <woutervddn at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :p
> You're doing great already..
>
> now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android
> phone :p
>
> grts
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mcielen at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
> To: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
> REPORT - 02/06/11
>
> Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
> If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an
installment
> meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker <woutervddn at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds great! good to have you on board.
> We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
> So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
> stall? :p
>
> grts
>
>
> wouter
>
> ------------------------------
> From: <mcielen at gmail.com>mcielen at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
> To: <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
> REPORT - 02/06/11
>
> As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
> renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
> contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to become the "project
> manager" for the Belgian ISO.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Martijn
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker < <woutervddn at hotmail.com>
> woutervddn at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> *IRC "ISO/USB Project" Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June
2011*
> Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (
> <http://epfsug.eu>epfsug.euEuropean Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr
> leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra,
> LarsB, warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
> (note: this isn't a "regular" weekly meeting)
>
>
> Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
> projects
> Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament
>
>
> *= ISO =*
> To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
> to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
> easier for Belgian Users.
> We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
> updated..)
> We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
> dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
> The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
> decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.
>
> *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
> Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
> endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need
to
> be taken in account.
> A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
> 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)
>
> Values:
>
> - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
> minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
> belgian citizens.
> - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and
ubuntu
> values)
> - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
> - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
video's
> we make)
> - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
> center, we should make people use it!
> - Keeping things simple
> - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of
user.
>
>
> Needed:
>
> - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
> - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
> language English is suggested)
> - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
> - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
> - AZERTY by default
> - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
> live mode.
> - Default homepage in firefox should be <http://Ubuntu-be.org
>Ubuntu-be.org.
> - E-ID program and driver
>
>
> Unwanted:
>
> - PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
> breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
> - Extra DE's
> - Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
> - 'professional' software
> - Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and stable
> enough for us to integrade.)
> - Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time
> the ubuntu version is supported.
>
>
> Wanted:
>
> - (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
> - Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr
> uses only persistent)
>
>
> What we might want to add (later):
>
> - Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know
> their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow
> Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be
> handled here so people find their way to them..
> - A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop
> Wallpapers is adviced.
> Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the Desktop
> Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
> might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
> we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
> - We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one,
> or a rescue version..)
>
>
>
> *= USB =*
> The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a
way
> to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
> CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs
> instead of giving away CDs sets Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.
> As with the ISO team, we need people who believe in this project and put
> their wings underneath it to make it fly.
> A leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make sure
the
> project keeps going and doesn't stall or bleed to dead.
> Participants to this projects and candidate leaders: step forward.
> A WIKIpage should be created for this.
>
> *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
> These guidelines are just a beginning, the USB team should try to endorse
> them and add more detail to them. The general ideas and guidelines of
Ubuntu
> need to be taken in to account.
> We should try to finish the USB project within the same period as the ISO
> project is finished. Collaboration between the ISO project and the USB
> project is crusial.
>
> The hardware:
>
> - 4GB
> - The logo must say <http://Ubuntu-be.org>Ubuntu-be.org instead of just
> Ubuntu-be.
> woutervddn will make some logos somewhere next week, feel free to make
your
> own. The logo is our billboard, it should look amazing!
> - No fancy stick, just a color imprint 2 colors, 1 side (except if 2nd
side
> would be free)
> - getting a sample USB stick to testdrive first is an extreme PLUS (So we
> can see how fast it is and the quality..)
> - Speed of the stick is very important (both read and write)
>
>
> The software:
>
> - 1 partition (we don't want windows to ask our users to format the drive,
a
> PERSONAL DATA map or similiar is suggested to keep users from putting
their
> stuff anywhere though)
>
>
> General:
>
> - People need to choose if they want 32bit or 64bit on the USB stick.
> - Vendor is choosen once the ISO is (almost) ready [so after the exams]
> - We don't need to top the budget, keeping prices low is a good thing
> (although we shouldn't pay attention to this if we can get an extreme
amount
> of benefit from it)
> - we might try to find a sponsor, or a partner for this
> - we should ask shops and other compagnies who sell/give ubuntu systems.
> (multiseatcomputer, <http://wegetit.be>wegetit.be, others on our website.)
> as jurgen said: the ones on our site... they all take pride in selling
> Ubuntu... I think we should challenge them ;)
> - Pre-order like the shirts would be great
>
>
> Ubuntu-fr:
> Ubuntu-fr has a similar project, we can always aks help.
>
> - Ubuntu-fr gets their sticks from flashbay, speed seems to be a huge
deal.
> (they tested)
> - Ubuntu-fr contact:
> <https://launchpad.net/~framakey-ubuntu-fr-remix-dev/+members>
> https://launchpad.net/~framakey-ubuntu-fr-remix-dev/+members ( pyg is the
> most capable to talk about the speed of the keys, followed by rmy but he's
> really busy atm organising the rmll)
>
>
>
> *=GENERAL=*
>
> - We need leaders for these projects and we also need participants. If you
> are willing to help with one or more of these projects, please step
forward.
> - It is adviced that we have a blog or something else that shows
interesting
> content when people using our iso open the webbrowser. We want them to
keep
> Ubuntu-be as their default homepage.
> - Congradulations to jurgentje, he's pregnant (well actually his wife
is)..
>
>
>
> *= UBUNTU FEST AT THE EURPEAN PARLIAMENT =*
> ehj has asked us if we could hold an ubuntu fest at the European
Parliament.
> epfsug is ground breaking concidering the way things go in the EP, if this
> takes off it would open doors for ubuntu and FOSS. Because many members of
> the EP aren't really in love with FOSS we might want to add another FOSS
> group to the agenda (libreoffice, FireFox, EFF, APRIL...).
> They currently have a test program where users have a triple boot on their
> laptops (ubuntu being 1 of them..)
> Find out more about the European Parliament Free Software Users Group at
> <http://epfsug.eu> <http://epfsug.eu>epfsug.eu
> Things they are working on can be found at
> <http://pad.epfsug.eu><http://pad.epfsug.eu>
> http://pad.epfsug.eu
> More info about our project with epfsug can be found on:
> <http://pad.telecomix.org/epfsug--ubuntu-be><
http://pad.telecomix.org/epfsug--ubuntu-be>
> http://pad.telecomix.org/epfsug--ubuntu-be
>
> What:
>
> - it needs to be something Fun and Interesting
> - we might want to concider giving an USB-stick to each attending Belgian
> MEP
> - fest might also include key signing an install party.
>
>
> When:
>
> - Although we were asked to do something before their summerbreak we
realize
> that might not be ideal. Therefore we are planning to hold a small meeting
> in July and hold a 'big' meeting september, jurgentje adviced somewhere
> around software freedom day (saturday 17th of September).
> - pink or blue dates are good dates to organize an event on:
> <http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2011.pdf><
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2011.pdf>
> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2011.pdf
> - we're holding a prep meeting in july
>
>
> Who:
>
> - Participants are wanted for this fest.
> - A talk from a high profile ubuntu member would be great! Ideas?
>
>
> Other:
>
> - we might need our rollouts sooner than planned..
> - seperate flyers for the EP would be nice..
> - we'll discuss this more during the meeting of next week.
> - more details will follow
>
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