Formal v Informal structure

[Cary Bielenberg]

Ok just got off my backside & had a look & on average the teams are 1 owner & between 2 & 6 admins depending on the country. Interestingly the US has state based loco's. I guess we are way too small for that. As Andrew stated there is 2 models for this & we will have to decide what model/structure we take.

Cary


andrew <gandella at gmail.com> wrote ..
> The Georgia Team has a 'Team Council'
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GeorgiaUSTeam/People
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 09:26 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote:
> > Question before we reinvent the wheel, does anyone know what other loco's are
> doing around the world?
> > 
> > Cary
> > 
> > 
> > bwright <bwright.au at gmail.com> wrote ..
> > > I prefer the idea of an informal structure as  Norm, VK3XCI mentioned
> > > it seems to fit the online community better than a rigid formal
> > > structure and I don't see how you could really argue that a formal
> > > structure is more inclusive than exclusive. One of the best things
> > > about an informal structure is that it is easy to join and participate
> > > but with that we have some issues surrounding organisation and getting
> > > things done. I believe Michael was referring to the red tape that some
> > > members may have suffered from when, "the ship sank" and in this
> > > regard perhaps we need a more open system for wiki editing with
> > > moderation instead of just having a bottle neck in a selected number
> > > of wiki editors. I see a formal structure only adding to the red tape.
> > > It is good we are discussing this and we can talk about it but I think
> > > we are overlapping here when this should really have been a reply to
> > > the Leadership Structure post. Cheers.
> > > 
> > > On May 18, 10:25 pm, Michael Chesterton <che... at chesterton.id.au>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 18/05/2010, at 9:55 PM, Norm, VK3XCI wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Informal Structure, just like we have at present. (A meritocracy. Nice,
> > > I
> > > > > like the word). This usually happens when a bunch of like minded people
> get
> > > > > together and "appoint" from there numbers, suitable people do do the required
> > > > > jobs. Notice there is no mention of (formal) positions. Such a group is
> often
> > > > > called a steering committee and generally presages the formation of a larger,
> > > > > more formal group. But not always. Given good faith it is a workable model
> > > in
> > > > > it's own right.
> > > >
> > > > This is what was in place when the ship sank, the trouble being good people
> > > > that wanted to help were turned away. No one new were able to learn the
> > > > ropes and filter to the top.
> > > >
> > > > Now we have a situation where we are very reliant on a very pointy top.
> > > >
> > > > I noticed the following happening.
> > > >
> > > > person A asked a general question that not many people knew the answer to.
> > > > person B indicated she knew the answer.
> > > > person A asked person B if they would mind updating the wiki so everyone
> > > > could benefit.
> > > > person B replied we have 20 wiki editors.
> > > >
> > > > Knowledge is power.
> > > >
> > > > > Okay, enough from the Greybeard.  There's my hat in the ring, let's see
> how
> > > many
> > > > > bullet holes it gets :)
> > > >
> > > > No bullets were fired, I'm pro change, how that happens I don't particularly
> > > mind.
> > > >
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