Getting reapproved
Melissa Draper
melissa at meldraweb.com
Fri May 14 10:50:07 BST 2010
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 18:06 +1000, Andre Mangan wrote:
> Hello Melissa,
>
> I have been a part of this mailing list since 2005. Back then I was a
> keen neophyte and eager to belong. I wrote to the designated Team
> Contact to offer some suggestions on improving some aspects of the
> organisation as well as offering my talents. I never did receive a
> reply. I wrote a second letter and again there was no reply.
>
> No doubt you had reasons for your silence, Melissa but unfortunately
> your inaction left a scar.
>
> That is one of the failings of having only one person for contact for
> the whole of Australia. There really should be several.
Well, considering I wasn't contact until some time in 2006, this is not
my silence you speak of. Back then there were 2 contacts.
> The concept of meritocracy is a literary fantasy and on par with many
> esoteric doctrines designed to establish superiority over the
> ignorant. Please abandon this concept. It has no right to exist and
> the way it has been used in the Ubuntu community smacks of autocracy
> in disguise.
>
> I was quite embarrassed by your letter to the LoCo Council. To me it
> seemed dismissive and untruthful.
>
> Again, in your post below, I read of matters totally foreign to me.
> Either I have not been paying attention or your inventive skills are
> finely honed.
>
> I live in the country and am familiar with locust plagues, however,
> crickets chirping makes me want to contract the crop duster.
>
> I know nothing of setting up 16 committees. Are you sure that your
> calculations are correct? I majored in statistics and mathematics and
> gladly offer my analytical expertise to you.
>
> Somebody here is barking up the wrong tree.
>
> Without prejudice,
>
> Cheers,
> Andre
>
>
>
> On 14 May 2010 17:18, Melissa Draper <melissa at meldraweb.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Back when we first started pooling information for the
> reapproval
> process, I mailed the list and called for information and help
> in the
> documenting process; help to construct the reapproval
> application wiki
> page.
>
> A few people sent email lists of stuff they'd done, and
> someone
> suggested we should stop promoting ubuntu and start promoting
> openoffice. Then, crickets chirped.
>
> Except for one thread. A thread that proposed to set up
> committees in
> each state/territory to oversee committees set up for cities,
> with a
> national loco on top. By my quick calculation of capitals +
> states/territories + 1, this would have been 16 committees,
> give or take
> depending on various things, such as whether you consider ACT
> to be, in
> reality, a significantly different population to Canberra.
>
> 16 committees? No. Just, no.
>
> I expressed my opinion, and the reasoning, several times.
> Others also
> expressed their dissatisfaction with the proposal. A few
> people
> persisted with the 16 committee plan and things went downhill
> from
> there. They did not get the popular support they hoped for.
>
> The lack of popular support for this proposal is where, it
> appears, the
> conflict "separate group" cited in the LoCo Council's
> rejection comes in
> to it. A "separate group" that, it would seem, was ultimately
> triggered
> by the reapproval process itself. The irony of this is not
> lost on me.
>
> I would like to note here; scraping content from other sites,
> syndicating people's blogs without their permission, and
> harvesting
> email addresses from the mailing list, is really poor form.
>
> Back when I first called for help for the reapproval, I posted
> a fairly
> long email stating what the team contact role was, and that I
> have been
> looking to hand it off for some time now. The absence of
> actual active
> participants, despite my encouragement of others to run
> meetings (not
> just call them and wait for me to chair them for you) and
> events in the
> team is why it had not been passed off. There was not really
> anyone to
> pass it off to.
>
> That is why I, for the most part, stayed out of the 16
> committee thread
> beyond stating my opinion. That is why I did not respond to
> the list
> immediately after the unapproval announcement a few days ago
> (mind you,
> I was going to post last night then left my laptop adapter at
> work and
> couldn't be bothered driving across Sydney at 10pm after an
> 11hr day to
> fetch it).
>
> I want people to stand up and take some responsibility for the
> team. I
> want people to make (sensible) suggestions. We never died. We
> are not
> dead. We're just in a lull. If it takes getting unapproved to
> get us out
> of it, then c'est la vie.
>
> But it means /you/ have to /do/ stuff; not just talk and then
> leave it
> up to someone else, or expect it's the contact's
> responsibility now. It
> means you have to think of things to discuss at the meetings
> and put
> agenda items on the meeting page; not just wait for someone to
> organise
> one and expect to turn up and ask unscheduled things. It means
> you have
> to actually do stuff and not expect to be given privileges for
> it. It
> means you have to do tangible non-social stuff /before/ you
> get
> privileges.
>
> And to those who want to carry LUG disagreements in to LoCo
> territory;
> go [re]familiarise yourself with the Ubuntu Code of Conduct,
> please.
>
> I want this team reapproved. I want this team to actually do
> things
> without needing official sanction from a committee (let alone
> 3 layers
> of them!), lest you become the team that throws members out
> for
> 'unapproved blogging' (sadly, a true story). It's your team.
> But I'd
> like people to take some selfless responsibility and not, as
> various
> emails I've had indicate, expect the contact/s to do it all.
>
> People I would suggest looking to as potential contacts are
> Jared Norris
> (head_victim) and Daniel Sobey (dns53).
>
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>
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>
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