Last nights meetings

[Tony "H.G" Candito]

I didn't enjoy reading certain sarcasms in that log. I think a certain
somebody could also do with reading
this<http://www.askdavetaylor.com/whats_a_micromanager.html>article -
(micromanagement) ;







On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:29 PM, IKT <noname420 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Heya Andre,
>
> > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer
> my services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service
> system) but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006).
>
> Does anyone have a link to this in the mailing list archives? I'm
> interested in which expertise and how they can be applied to the team.
>
> > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no
> administration, no cohesion.
>
> That's not necessarily a bad thing, I am a member of the ubuntu
> beginners team and recently there was a lot of structure and
> administration introduced, and quite a few members have since felt the
> team has changed radically from its original goals and left.
>
> In my opinion we have a very (very) fine line for these sorts of teams
> between being generally a social group that attempts to spread the
> word where it can and a bureaucratic mess.
>
> > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous
> if you wish to what follows.
>
> Not to take away from the loco but on the ubuntuforums and launchpad
> would love your help! As was quoted to me recently there's about 500
> bugs for every 1 developer, and a lot of those are duplicates, me and
> kermaic are both apart of the 5 a day team
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day) but you don't have to go that far,
> even just answering a couple posts in ABT would be enough to warrant
> joining (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam)
>
> So your help is definitely wanted, it's just directing it in the right
> area, in regards to directing your help specifically at this loco:
>
> > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team?  Waving a stick
> pretending to be the moral guardian is not sufficient.
>
> What exactly do you expect to happen? Remembering we do have the issue
> of being a country wide loco.
>
>  - David/IKT
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Andrew,
> >
> > I hope that this is the right place to offload some of my frustrations.
>  Like you I also have a family life and I am able to sacrifice limited time
> to Ubuntu.  I have been quite active in the Ubuntu Forums, Launchpad and
> LinuxQuestions until I could no longer afford the time to devote myself to
> answering questions relating to the Ubuntu operating system and as a
> consequence have withdrawn considerably (I have many other things to do).
> >
> > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer
> my services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service
> system) but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006).
> >
> > Attempts to make contact with the local Linux User Group resulted in no
> reply as did a letter to Linux Australia relating to the local Linux user
> group.
> >
> > Discouragement at every step.
> >
> > I learnt how to find my own solutions and survived.  I must acknowledge
> the support of a few Ubuntu friendlies and new friends that made my path
> bearable.
> >
> > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous
> if you wish to what follows.
> >
> > Thank you for posting the meeting log.  How disappointing that the
> governance issue was not raised.  It is really important.
> >
> > I rise with the sun and go to bed soon after it sinks, hence my absence
> from the meeting - 9 p.m., in my opinion, is for those who have nothing else
> to do or are waiting for something to happen to justify their insomnia...but
> then I might just be one of the old-timer Australians with a different set
> of values.
> >
> > Reading the meeting summary, it seems to me that the meeting was largely
> a meaningless fiasco - and who appointed Scott Evans as a moderator (not
> that I have anything against him)?
> >
> > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team?  Waving a stick
> pretending to be the moral guardian is not sufficient.
> >
> > There are so many willing people but no-one to harness all this energy.
> >
> > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no
> administration, no cohesion.
> >
> > Please repair as soon as you can.  If I can help, count me in.
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16 March 2010 16:58, AndrewG <gandella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is the log file for last nights meeting, for anybody that missed
> >> it.
> >> Ubuntu-au governance was not talked about.
> >>
> >> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2010/03/15/%23ubuntu-au.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-au mailing list
> >> ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
> >
> >
> > --
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> > ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
> >
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