ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010

Sun Apr 25 07:32:29 BST 2010

Hi Ferdinand,

At last year's conference speakers included: 'The Gadget Man' and
professional type presenters from Microsoft, Apple, Google and NEC with
their 'Broadband for Seniors' programme.  Linux Australia would have to be
able to offer a presentation of equal or better quality to make an impact.
 If  Linux Australia have that capability and are interested I suggest they
contact the ASCCA organizers to see if there was an opportunity in the
program for such a presentation.

Another alternative would be to have a Linux stand there. Apparently this
has been done at an education conference somewhere but I am unaware of the
details.  Whatever is done should be professional and should include
provision for back up to any interested people.

Regards,

Tony

On 24 April 2010 14:18, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de> wrote:

>  Dear Tony,
>
> thank you very much for the background. Well I am located in the North West
> of Sydney and would be able to give after hour or on the weekend support and
> help in terms of installation and getting things running. That means if
> there is a local Club associated with the ASCCA, he is always welcome to
> contact me in this regard.
>
> I am not a professional in regard to IT or Computer Technology. In a
> previous life I was for some time working in programming and project
> engineering. Computing is just getting a hobby of mine not to get rusty.
>
> Coming back to the meeting. As written, I will be able to prepare a
> presentation, but I am not certain whether I am available personally for the
> presentation. For that reason I will ask people on the list whether some of
> them has time and how we can get together.
>
> Keep in contact
> Ferdinand
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Tony Addis <tonyaddis at gmail.com<Tony%20Addis%20%3ctonyaddis at gmail.com%3e>
> >
> *To*: Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de<Ferdinand%20Lehnard%20%3cferdinand.lehnard at web.de%3e>
> >
> *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
> *Date*: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:14:31 +1000
>
> Hi Ferdinand,
>
> I originally sent Mich the email which started this discussion, and while
> grateful for Mitch's regard for my privacy, do not mind my name being
> mentioned in these emails.  I am a member of a computer club in a retirement
> village on the Gold Coast and our club is a member club of ASCCA.  I
> attended the ASCCA conference last year and it was excellent except there
> was no advocacy for Linux.  I will be going to the conference again this
> year with some of my colleagues but as a newbie, am not in a position to
> deliver a presentation.
>
> You are correct in assuming that elderly people with tight budgets would
> welcome Linux and Open Source software; a] if they knew about them b] if
> they had confidence in them and c] if they could be assured of backup in the
> event there was a modem or wifi malfunction or some other technical
> problem.  We will be introducing Ubuntu 10.04 to our club when it is
> available in the knowledge that we have support from our local LUG.
>
> I am sure that other ASCCA clubs would also begin to use Ubuntu if the
> conditions a, b, and c above were met and I don't believe there would be any
> objection from ASCCA.
>
> What Linux Australia faces here is a great opportunity to promote Linux and
> in particular the Ubuntu distro.  A target market of over 100 clubs
> representing thousands of computer users knowing nothing about Linux!
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 22 April 2010 23:34, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Andre,
>
> thanks for the info. You should think that especially elderly people with
> tight budgets will welcome alternatives who offer them a variety of
> possibilities in terms of computing - but as you wrote they are all biased
> against "free", Linux, open.... Over the the last 20 years they got
> sprinkled with the word "Microsoft" either on workplace or later at home -
> since Windows 3.0 was coming into the market. There were better systems
> earlier in the market, i. e. DR-DOS, the AmigaOS based on C and Assembler,
> all forgotten.
>
> Is there someone planning to go for that meeting? If yes, let me know, I
> like to give you support in preparation of the presentation and may be also
> personal support during the meeting. I can't say right now, yes I am coming,
> or no I am coming not, because for the time being I am not sure whether I am
> available - it's in the mid of the week. I just have some time on weekends.
>
>
>
> Ferdinand
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com<Andre%20Mangan%20%3candremangan at gmail.com%3e>
> >
>
>  *To*: Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de<Ferdinand%20Lehnard%20%3cferdinand.lehnard at web.de%3e>
> >
> *Cc*: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc<Chris%20Martin%20%3cchris at martin.cc%3e>>,
> ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
> *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
>
>
>  *Date*: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:27:32 +1000
>
>
> Thank you for that information Ferdinand.
>
> A further few comments about ASCCA and its affiliated clubs - a quick look
> through what computer training individual clubs offer - I found one that
> offers an introduction to Ubuntu (http://users.tpg.com.au/cphills/) as
> well as one that teaches Mac.  It is likely that there are more.  Most of
> them are hopelessly entrenched in Windows although Firefox is recommended as
> a browser.
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> On 21 April 2010 07:35, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> the announcement is in their newsletter vol. 12 from February 2010 and is
> indeed held in the Power House Museum. Newsletter attached
>
> regards
> Ferdinand
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com<Andre%20Mangan%20%3candremangan at gmail.com%3e>
> >
> *To*: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc<Chris%20Martin%20%3cchris at martin.cc%3e>
> >
> *Cc*: ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
> *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
> *Date*: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:43 +1000
>
> Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the coming
> conference.
>
> In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in Sydney.  Date:
> 8th and 9th September, 2010.
>
> It may be better to contact ASCCA directly:
> http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc> wrote:
>
> Mitch.  Can you let us know when and where the conference will be held
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Chris Martin
> m: 0419812371
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Mitch,
>
> Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of
> the local Computer Pals for Seniors group.
>
> A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties
> with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist
> him.  You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone
> and screenshots to solve a computer problem.  Apparently a home visit was
> indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of
> providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
> available to accommodate such a need.
>
> The problem in question was eventually resolved.
>
> Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals
> for Seniors group.  I have had about 25 years of experience with computers
> and thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services.  Even
> then I had to argue my case.  A misunderstanding?
>
> Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien"
> because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me
> some indication of things to come.  I bit my tongue.
>
> As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the
> assemblage.  This was granted.
>
> My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with
> computer problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling
> expenses  ( I am talking about country distances and country travel ).  That
> was well received and a negotiator and person for contact was established.
>
> I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the
> use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out
> of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use.
>
> I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial
> software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of
> people who can least afford it.  One person wanted to argue that MS Word was
> far superior to OpenOffice.org.  I pointed out that I had not come to argue
> any case for or against.
> Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and
> generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.  Unfortunately
> there was no hot-spot for internet.
>
> The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS
> has given them licences for all their software at almost no cost.  Another
> factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to
> them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with
> Windows.
>
> Will I go to the next meeting?  You can bet on it.
>
> I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual
> Conference in September.
>
> I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present)
> Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the
> back foot.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner <mitch.towner.ubuntu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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> Hi Everyone,
>
>             I received some more information today regarding the 2010 ASCCA
> Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the
> conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand
> scale" type of thing as I initially thought.
>
> Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at
> this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public
> speaker. However I am very keen to help organise a presentation at this
> conference as I believe that it would be a perfect opportunity to help
> promote Ubuntu.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Mitch (kermiac on IRC)
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