Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

Andrew Gaydon gandella at gmail.com
Mon Apr 19 01:17:45 BST 2010


Dave,

I will defend my integrity.

You have quoted a thread from March, in which there was a general discussion
about Ubuntu-au Governance.

This was the actual thread about the 'PROPOSAL'

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2010-April/005957.html

Yes we are wasting our energy lets move on and 'GET OVER IT'.

Andrew G.


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Dave Hall <dave.hall at skwashd.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 08:20 +1000, Andrew Gaydon wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Melissa Draper
> > <melissa at meldraweb.com> wrote:
> >         On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:18 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote:
> >         > This will be my last response as per your wishes Jared, I am
> >         saddened
> >         > that you and Melissa stifle change, you misquote the code of
> >         conduct
> >         > to server your own needs. I guess it will be good to trot
> >          it out to
> >         > stop folks challenging your authority.
>
> Robust debate is one thing, personal attacks are quite another thing.  I
> haven't seen the CoC used to stifle debate, but I have seen it used to
> remind people of their responsibilities when participating in the
> community.
>
> >         Cary, I've refrained from responding to much of the
> >         repetitions here.
> >
> >         "I expressed my view of the triple-tier council back when it
> >         was first
> >         brought up, and in private emails with Andrew."
> >
> > I refute this statement strongly, this is the fist time I have heard
> > from Melissa on the subject.
> > I will also not be engaging in a he says / she says argument.
>
> The archives show that Melissa replied to your suggestion for a tiered
> structure on the same day as you made it, back on 3 March.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2010-March/005756.html
>
> I think Jared has already demonstrated that there isn't a groundswell of
> support for change.  Maybe there will be some other time, but now it is
> time those agitating for change accept the way the land lies.
>
> As discussed on the list already, there is a lot that can be done to
> promote ubuntu in the community.  Let's focus our energies there, rather
> than on continuing to waste energy on this protracted debate.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
>
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