LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

[Andrew Gaydon]

Dear Friend,

 I think that you miss the point.
 I will explain.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Daniel Sobey <dns_server at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> It's a great idea on paper but i do not see it working with a community
> our size.
> Currently we have 24 people in #ubuntu-au-chat and 38 in #ubuntu-au, we
> have around 300 people on the mailing list.
>

  Why are people not active ?     if we have 300 people on the mailing list
  How many people are currently signed-on to the ubuntu-au website that are
not on the mailing list or on the
  official team list ?    Why do they not subscribe or become official ?


> At release parties we do get 20-30 people to meet up in but I don't see
> that anywhere near big enough to support anything like lug style
> meetings. Australia is also quite big with people in the capitol cities
> and not a lot else. Perhaps Sydney or Melbourne might have the numbers
> but if only 2 places have the council what is the point?
>

  With Brisbane that makes  Team-contact + web-master + 3 representatives
that makes 5 people.

  The 'Point', is not how many people are on the ACC, but that an ACC exists
so that 'people' can get-together in
  sufficient numbers to form a 'local LoCo' and take a seat on the ACC.


> We do need to change, but just adding 3 layers of bureaucracy will not
> help, perhaps in 5 or 10 years when our community has grown it will be
> needed but not now.
>

  You are right, perhaps in 5 to 10 years we will need 3 layers.  (it is a
blue-print for the future)

  The model doesn't call for this until the numbers are sufficient.
  And a 'state-council' is only created if there are more than 5 reps on the
ACC (in the same state).



> So the question is if the current system is not working, or not working
> as well as it should why is the proposal is to replace 1 person with
> potentially 9 people.
>

   Providing a structure for people to come forward to share the leadership.


> There is some space for more people to step up into leadership but i'm
> not sure if anyone has come forward and offered themselves up. Perhaps
> part of the problem is that no one has come up with ideas and everyone
> is looking to Melissa for everything. Her approach is to let everyone do
> what they want and leave them up to themselves.
>

   There are many 'leaders' in this group, but there is no encouragement for
them to stand-up.
   There is no 'leadership role' for them to take.

   "i'm (you) are not sure if anyone has come forward and offered themselves
up"
   - That is because there is no transparent process for leaders to come
forward.



> I think there is a place for leadership but there is little point in
> adding another layer. If you think you have something to contribute go
> ahead and contribute, we need all the help we can get. You do not need
> to be approved before doing anything just make your suggestion and the
> community will help as much as we can.
>

  There is no 'extra layer', there are 'extra people' in leadership roles.
  Individuals can still do anything that they like.

   'One person can achieve a little, many people can achieve a lot'


> The question we should be asking is what needs to be done and what isn't
> being done with the current system and how adding this will help.
>

   "An open and transparent 'Leadership' as there is currently none.
    An ACC will provide 'Advisory, Support, Leadership & Co-ordination, a
Local contact"


> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>

Regards,

Andrew G.
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