ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1

Todd todd at nodaleks.com
Mon Oct 1 23:07:35 BST 2007


If you are locked into a contract and must use IE then I suggest you 
have a look at this page, it will guide you through the process of 
installing IE on Ubuntu. I use it for testing purposes.

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer

Cheers
Todd

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>    1. re:    Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Anthony J Brow)
>    2. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Smacky_Wolf)
>    3. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Daniel Mons)
>    4. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Karl Goetz)
>    5. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Smacky_Wolf)
>    6. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Andre Mangan)
>    7. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (David Whyte)
>    8. Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice (Daniel Mons)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:15:23 +1000
> From: Anthony J Brow <tbrow at tpg.com.au>
> Subject: re:    Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice
> To: "ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hi Folks,
>
> Is this discrimination  against Ubuntu users?  When trying to access my Vodafone account today, I ran into problems
> where Vodafone would not accept my name (phone number) and password. All I wanted to do is access
> my account an pay the bill. When one reads the website below it is virtually saying we will
> only accept your sign in via Microsoft. Have any of you out there struck problems similar problems
> with Vodafone ? Or any other business for that matter.  I have set the cookies in Firefox so that
> Vodafone will be  accepted. I have made a report to one of the Vodafone Customer Managers, telling him
> that I would put this on the net (via the ubuntu-au lists). My system is Dapper Drake.
>
> https://www.myvodafone.com.au/knox/browser_advice.html
>
> rgds 
> tony
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> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:38:09 +1000
> From: Smacky_Wolf <smacky.wolf at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice
> To: tbrow at tpg.com.au
> Cc: "ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hey Anthony,
>
> I've noted this with VF before. Basically, without emulating and running IE,
> you aren't getting in. I think there's a few little plugins for Firefox that
> might do this, but due to lazy web design, they have basically decided that
> anyone not running Windows is not worth their time.
>
> Vodafone are famous for being incompetent and useless. Don't bother trying
> to call them, they'll just tell you to call your manufacturer.
>
> Try using CrossOverOffice or something like that to run IE if you don't have
> a windows install. Not much else you can do.
>
> Smacky. (Resident VF hater.)
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Anthony J Brow <tbrow at tpg.com.au> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Is this discrimination  against Ubuntu users?  When trying to access my Vodafone account today, I ran into problems
>> where Vodafone would not accept my name (phone number) and password. All I wanted to do is access
>> my account an pay the bill. When one reads the website below it is virtually saying we will
>> only accept your sign in via Microsoft. Have any of you out there struck problems similar problems
>> with Vodafone ? Or any other business for that matter.  I have set the cookies in Firefox so that
>> Vodafone will be  accepted. I have made a report to one of the Vodafone Customer Managers, telling him
>> that I would put this on the net (via the ubuntu-au lists). My system is Dapper Drake.
>> https://www.myvodafone.com.au/knox/browser_advice.html
>>
>> rgds
>> tony
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:13:02 +1000
> From: Daniel Mons <daniel.mons at iinet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice
> To: "ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Install the User Agent Switcher addon for Firefox:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
>
> This will add an option within Firefox that allows you to customise how 
> Firefox reports itself to web servers.  I use this very frequently to 
> log on to "IE only" sites and services both on the web and within 
> companies (many businesses used "web-based' ERP and finance systems that 
> are IE-only, but work fine in Firefox).
>
> This will get you past the front page of many sites that blatantly 
> reject different browsers by fooling then into thinking you are running 
> IE on Windows.  Best of all, it doesn't require you to use IE or any 
> form of emulation/vm software.
>
> If however the site has merely been coded poorly and doesn't work with 
> Firefox, then your choices are limited.
>
> Outside of Linux users, Mac users are also discriminated against by 
> sites like these.  Safari is based on KHTML which is the core rendering 
> engine for the KDE/Konqueror web browser.  Anyone who does such silly 
> things is obviously not concerned with their customer's online safety by 
> forcing them to use an inferior web browser plagued with security issues.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> Anthony J Brow wrote:
>   
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Is this discrimination  against Ubuntu users?  When trying to access my Vodafone account today, I ran into problems
>> where Vodafone would not accept my name (phone number) and password. All I wanted to do is access
>> my account an pay the bill. When one reads the website below it is virtually saying we will
>> only accept your sign in via Microsoft. Have any of you out there struck problems similar problems
>> with Vodafone ? Or any other business for that matter.  I have set the cookies in Firefox so that
>> Vodafone will be  accepted. I have made a report to one of the Vodafone Customer Managers, telling him
>> that I would put this on the net (via the ubuntu-au lists). My system is Dapper Drake.
>>
>> https://www.myvodafone.com.au/knox/browser_advice.html
>>
>> rgds 
>> tony
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:58:31 +0930
> From: Karl Goetz <kamping_kaiser at internode.on.net>
> Subject: Re: Vodafone Australia - Browser Advice
> To: "ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1191227311.25837.5.camel at rommel>
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> On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:38 +1000, Smacky_Wolf wrote:
>   
>> Hey Anthony,
>>  
>> I've noted this with VF before. Basically, without emulating and
>> running IE, you aren't getting in. I think there's a few little
>> plugins for Firefox that might do this, but due to lazy web design,
>> they have basically decided that anyone not running Windows is not
>> worth their time.
>>     
>
> yet another good reason for me to start looking to change carrier...
>
>   
>>  
>> Vodafone are famous for being incompetent and useless. Don't bother
>> trying to call them, they'll just tell you to call your manufacturer.
>>  
>> Try using CrossOverOffice or something like that to run IE if you
>> don't have a windows install. Not much else you can do.
>>     
>
> not really a good option imo ;) firefox plugin if absolutely needed...
> kk
>
>   
>>  
>> Smacky. (Resident VF hater.)
>>
>>  
>>
>>     



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