[ubuntu-art] IMPORTANT : Natty illustration wallpaper submissions group

[coz DS]

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:50 AM, John Baer <baerjj at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Vishnoo <vish at ubuntu.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> In case folks have not seen Thorsten's post about this:
>> <
>> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/watch-out-regarding-natty-wallpaper-submissions/
>> >
>>
>>
>> The submissions for the natty wallpaper illustration *should* be in the
>> Ubuntu Artwork Group :  <http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/>
>> and not anywhere else.
>>
>> One person is spreading false information and trying to propagate his
>> own private groups. DO NOT BE MISLEAD by such false propaganda.
>>
>> If you have been mislead, *kindly* re-submit to the right group, Ubuntu
>> artwork group :  <http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/> and tag
>> the submission as "NattyWallpaper".
>> I've asked Iain about this, and he mentioned that the judges will be
>> looking at the Official Ubuntu artwork group and not anywhere else.
>>
>> So, if you have not submitted at the right place, the judges will not be
>> looking at your submissions.
>>
>> Quoting from Iain's post on:
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>> http://design.canonical.com/2011/01/the-natty-wallpaper-contest-an-important-update/
>> >
>> "As before with the photographic entries simply tag your image
>> NattyWallpaper so we can easily find it when judging time comes."
>>
>> This means, submit to the 'Ubuntu artwork' group and tag it
>> "NattyWallpaper".
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Vish
>>
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>
> Vish,
>
> I hesitate to respond to this post as it will likely turn into a "*rant" or
> a "flame" but the bottom line is what is the harm? I invited artist to
> support Ubuntu and the greater community by sharing their talent and I set
> up an environment which would protect their contributions from the harsh
> criticism often found on this list.
>
> This has been open, respectful of other individual efforts, and as of today
> I have not received any requests from the design team to stop.
>
> Although you feel empowered to make statements and wiki changes with the
> implied authority of the Design Team I have asked if you have this authority
> and have not received confirmation this is true. My assumption is you share
> the same role as the rest of us - Artwork Team member.
>
> So the real question becomes how do you want to contribute to the Ubuntu
> community and what is stopping you?
>
> I don't see any barriers.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John
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>
 John,
   My name is  "coz"
I have been with ubuntu since its dawning some years ago.
I joined the community art team just about the same time.
 I completely understand the desire to contribute to the project overall.
I am not clear on why the "fork"  links for the submissions!
There is only one place for artwork to be chosen and judged and no one is
going to get that opportunity via your links.
Doesn't this seem "counter productive"  to those who truly wish to have the
opportunity to have their work judged for inclusion into Ubuntu?
   The fact is that  the "design team" is part of canonical.. a
corporation.. they have final say.. as much as I would like this all to be
"community" oriented.. it is in fact a corporate decision... the "community
art group"  "us"  are never going to be seen as the final say in the artwork
for ubuntu.. that has been made clear years ago.. the big reasons are,
quality work ,, quality artists,, and organization.. all of which are
lacking.
 I feel that your move for mis-guiding artists to submit work to a place
that NONE of the judges will see.. is part of that disorganization, even if
it were just "bad timing"  on your part.
I have no issues with vish...or thorwill...or doctorno..or any of the people
now involved in the community art group.
I find all of them friendly,,, capable, and informative..even fun to talk
with :)
   I find the most important thing to accomplish a cohesive influential
group is  "communication"
Each member's skills will eventually float to the surface, allowing for each
to contribute fully to the "whole" picture,, rather than individuals trying
to counter or revise the goals.
  I suppose I am asking for your vision of your intent!
Why the links during this judging period?
What is your goal for introducing, what is seen as,  an apparent  disruption
in the process?
I would appreciate a discussion about these issues with you.
As I mentioned,, I am an old member.. I have seen a few important people
come and go,, and at this point another is leaving because of what may turn
out to be "mis-communication"..
I am sure you feel that is is intolerable as well.

coz
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