[ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

[Vishnoo]

Hi,
Thorsten's recent mail "Goodbye", has generated some response and there
has been reference to issues and seeking advice from Jono/Ivanka.

Highlighting the relevant replies:

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Our combined inability or unwillingness to deal with repeated 
> misrepresentations and incredible ignorance from one member pisses me 
> off to no end and spoils the last bit of fun.

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:41 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:> 
> I understand, I've reduced my participation because of the same member.
> This team isn't worth being involved with any more because it's a team
> that only exists to serve one member; a member who will distort, lie and
> outright misrepresent in order to bully the consensus so things are done
> his way.

To me, it is pretty clear what Martin and Thorsten refer to.

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:43 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Сергей <shnatsel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On the other hand, the issues are pointed out, so now we can work on solving them. After reading Martin's message I think we shall ask Ivanka or even Jono Bacon for advice. We just can't let the team fall apart!       
> 
> Yes, it's definitely time to do something. I'm +1 on seeking advice from Ivanka and Jono.
>  

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:08 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
> Thorwil,
> I too have been dialing back my participation on the list for the very same reasons you state. 


@Сергей, Leandro Gómez, Saleel Velankar:
 can you clearly state what issue has been troubling you?

We first need to identify the issue to fix the situation.
We need to state clearly what our problem is, before we seek advice from Jono/Ivanka.

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Cheers,
Vish