[ubuntu-art] New Wave

Anton Kerezov ankere at gmail.com
Wed May 7 16:43:41 BST 2008

> >> 2) The font with a shadow in the bar looks very outdated. I suggest we 
> >> use a font without a shadow. The one you see in this image ("Totem Video 
> >> Player") is Free Sans, without any transformation.
> >>     
> >
> > Well I havent yet thought of fonts. If you have any idea of what may be
> > good for title (and available in many languages) just give it to me and
> > I will put it there.
> >
> >   
> Did you try with FreeSans in size 11 (btw, is it available in many 
> alphabets?). And is it possible to remove the ugly shadow behind it?

I've done it and it looks blurrier compared to other sans fonts.

> >> 5) Could it be possible to make the down corners as round as the top 
> >> ones? Also, could you let me see how it looks without the thin dark gray 
> >> line of the bottom?
> >>     
> >
> > The reason of this gray line is that at 1px the window cannot be resized
> > downwards. So I made the bottom border 4px as 3 of them gray to match
> > the titlebar. There is workaround to make them like the bg but the
> > borderline should become darker even on unfocused windows to hide a bug
> > in emerald. I like the old version because it is more stylish.
> >
> > But here we go:
> > http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65740_NoGreyline_122_529lo.jpg
> >   
> Ok, maybe it is possible to make the 4px bar the same color than the 
> rest of the window -- this, we would have both the windows in one piece 
> *and* the possibility to resize downwards.

I don't understand what you mean. Isn't it like the link above? In it
you can see the Liberation fonts in use for titlebars.

> >> 6) Still the thing about not active windows... Too bad we cannot make 
> >> the top bar/menu bar really flat, the whole window in the same piece. 
> >> Inactive windows of the current default theme of Ubuntu look a bit like 
> >> that.
> >>     
> >
> > I know what you have in mind but it can't be done.
> >   
> Too bad... Do you think it will be possible in the engine? I hope so, 
> that's something that could look really nice --  independent drop shadow 
> settings for active and inactive windows also, btw.

Don't know if the engine has access to such an information as
active/inactive windows. If it has it is possible. Anyone knows that?

> >> 7) Don't know if it is possible but it would be great if we could also 
> >> apply a really light gradient on the entire light gray window, like in 
> >> the initial mockup.
> >>     
> >
> > It is probably possible but then my concept (as I showed in 1.)) will be
> > lost.
> >   
> Ok... If that's really easy to do, could you please just try it? As you 
> wish...

About the understanding of my concept imagine that the menubar and
titlebar are background(bg) and the rest of the window is
foreground(fg). Thus the fg is dropping shadow on the bg and that is why
the gradient look like that.

Here's the test you requested:

But this confg made me think that I can grab the window by the menubar
and move it. That certainly is not possible :D

Oh, btw - Nodoka screenshot:


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