[ubuntu-art] Matte for the next release?

Fri Nov 23 21:29:09 GMT 2007

sorry

2007/11/23, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail at home.se>:
>
> Hi Sylvain!
> Can you turn off the caps-button please?
> Your e-mails are making me nervous. :)
> - Andreas
>
>
> sylvain marc skrev:
> > SORRY IF MY FIRTS POST IS TOO BIG - I TRY TO CANCEL IT LIKE IT WAS
> > EXPLAIN HERE :
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-art/937276445103c0ebf02ae929dedb62b826c82c69
> > ......
> > I LIKE http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Minimal-perception-67892707
> > AND http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034
> > AND I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO MAKE A MIX OF THE THEMES LIKE I
> > EXPLAIN IT IN MY DOCUMENT I POST YESTERDAY) : ORANGE-LINSTABLACKPLASIC
> > / CRUX / MINT / GLOSSY-GLASS /
> >
> > Sam7 (Sylvain)
> >
> > 2007/11/22, Who <mailforwho at googlemail.com
> > <mailto:mailforwho at googlemail.com>>:
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     Seeing as Kenneth says that this is the time to suggest ideas to be
> >     taken in to account when the final artwork direction is decided I
> >     would like to start some discussion of the merits of using a matte
> >     theme (with small glossy elements/highlights) for the next release
> of
> >     Ubuntu
> >
> >     I'd love anyone who has ideas on why this is a good or bad idea to
> >     chime in. I'll list a few of my own to get discussion started
> >
> >     I'm suggesting it, so I'll list why I think it's a good idea to go
> >     mainly matte.
> >
> >     Problems with Glossyness:
> >     1. It's been DONE (by Ubuntu and by everyone else)
> >     --- Shiny themes have been done and are everywhere now. Ubuntu's
> >     design wants to STAND OUT, and we want to make a new chapter in
> >     Ubuntu's design! OsX used to be king of gloss, but in Leopard we see
> >     Apple shifting away from it  (but admittedly not quite being able to
> >     let go).
> >
> >     2. It's DISTRACTING
> >     --- Shinnyness is _distracting_ from the what you are working on.
> >     GNOME is designed not to get in your way while you do your work, but
> >     shinny things that cry out for your attention minimise it's
> >     effectiveness in doing this
> >
> >     3. It's not (very) TANGO Compliant
> >     --- Tango guidelines ask only for things that are glossy in real
> life
> >     to be glossy. Given that more and more applications are adopting
> >     Tango
> >     icons we are giving ourselves a much larger job if we create a theme
> >     that Tango doesn't fit in to, because for total consistency we have
> to
> >     re-theme all the applications.
> >
> >     4. It feels LESS REALISTIC
> >     --- As Tango guidelines point out, real surfaces are rarely
> glossy...
> >     Using icons that represent real objects helps people intuitively use
> >     applications and understand icons, adding gloss somewhat detracts
> from
> >     this. It leads to 'cartoon' design in many cases.
> >
> >     Nice things about matte themes
> >     1. They can be SOFTER
> >     --- contrast in a matte theme can be lower, so the whole set of
> >     widgets is easier to look at ('easier on the eyes'). It makes the
> >     interface feel more human, to me...
> >
> >     2. BROWN and Matte > Brown and glossy
> >     --- One of the contradictions in Ubuntu UI policy seems to be the
> >     difficulty of brown vs orange. One of the reasons we have this is
> >     becasue brown does not look good glossy, and orange does! If
> >     Ubuntu is
> >     going to stay brown using a matte theme allows the designers more
> >     scope and allows for greater colour consistency. Brown isn't a very
> >     glossy colour
> >
> >     3. Textures are often matte
> >     -- Elephants, for example ;)
> >
> >
> >     There are some really original ones around (yes, so I'm sure there
> are
> >     orignal glossy ones around too, please post them if you find them :)
> >
> >     After some trawling, here we go
> >     Just the _buttons_ on this theme are beautiful:
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Sand?content=69773
> >     Someone called 'Lyrae' has a whole host of similar (awesome and
> >     original) matte/square themes:
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nova?content=57310
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Fawn?content=58426
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Calla?content=52297
> >
> >     This 'wooden' is kind cool
> >     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034
> >     <http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034>
> >
> >     So is the Clearlooks theme from Breezy
> >
> http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg
> >     <
> http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg>
> >
> >     Nodoka, is a nice theme engine to use
> >
> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nodoka+GTK%2B+Engine?content=64604
> >
> >     So, let's have a discussion about it - what do people think?
> >
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