sorry <div>2007/11/23, Andreas Nilsson <<a href="mailto:nisses.mail@home.se">nisses.mail@home.se</a>>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Sylvain! Can you turn off the caps-button please? Your e-mails are making me nervous. :) - Andreas sylvain marc skrev: > SORRY IF MY FIRTS POST IS TOO BIG - I TRY TO CANCEL IT LIKE IT WAS > EXPLAIN HERE : > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-art/937276445103c0ebf02ae929dedb62b826c82c69">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-art/937276445103c0ebf02ae929dedb62b826c82c69</a> > ...... > I LIKE <a href="http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Minimal-perception-67892707">http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Minimal-perception-67892707</a> > AND <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034"> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034</a> > AND I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO MAKE A MIX OF THE THEMES LIKE I > EXPLAIN IT IN MY DOCUMENT I POST YESTERDAY) : ORANGE-LINSTABLACKPLASIC > / CRUX / MINT / GLOSSY-GLASS / > > Sam7 (Sylvain) > > 2007/11/22, Who <<a href="mailto:mailforwho@googlemail.com">mailforwho@googlemail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mailforwho@googlemail.com"> mailforwho@googlemail.com</a>>>: > >     Hi all, > >     Seeing as Kenneth says that this is the time to suggest ideas to be >     taken in to account when the final artwork direction is decided I >     would like to start some discussion of the merits of using a matte >     theme (with small glossy elements/highlights) for the next release of >     Ubuntu > >     I'd love anyone who has ideas on why this is a good or bad idea to >     chime in. I'll list a few of my own to get discussion started > >     I'm suggesting it, so I'll list why I think it's a good idea to go >     mainly matte. > >     Problems with Glossyness: >     1. It's been DONE (by Ubuntu and by everyone else) >     --- Shiny themes have been done and are everywhere now. Ubuntu's >     design wants to STAND OUT, and we want to make a new chapter in >     Ubuntu's design! OsX used to be king of gloss, but in Leopard we see >     Apple shifting away from it  (but admittedly not quite being able to >     let go). > >     2. It's DISTRACTING >     --- Shinnyness is _distracting_ from the what you are working on. >     GNOME is designed not to get in your way while you do your work, but >     shinny things that cry out for your attention minimise it's >     effectiveness in doing this > >     3. It's not (very) TANGO Compliant >     --- Tango guidelines ask only for things that are glossy in real life >     to be glossy. Given that more and more applications are adopting >     Tango >     icons we are giving ourselves a much larger job if we create a theme >     that Tango doesn't fit in to, because for total consistency we have to >     re-theme all the applications. > >     4. It feels LESS REALISTIC >     --- As Tango guidelines point out, real surfaces are rarely glossy... >     Using icons that represent real objects helps people intuitively use >     applications and understand icons, adding gloss somewhat detracts from >     this. It leads to 'cartoon' design in many cases. > >     Nice things about matte themes >     1. They can be SOFTER >     --- contrast in a matte theme can be lower, so the whole set of >     widgets is easier to look at ('easier on the eyes'). It makes the >     interface feel more human, to me... > >     2. BROWN and Matte > Brown and glossy >     --- One of the contradictions in Ubuntu UI policy seems to be the >     difficulty of brown vs orange. One of the reasons we have this is >     becasue brown does not look good glossy, and orange does! If >     Ubuntu is >     going to stay brown using a matte theme allows the designers more >     scope and allows for greater colour consistency. Brown isn't a very >     glossy colour > >     3. Textures are often matte >     -- Elephants, for example ;) > > >     There are some really original ones around (yes, so I'm sure there are >     orignal glossy ones around too, please post them if you find them :) > >     After some trawling, here we go >     Just the _buttons_ on this theme are beautiful: >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Sand?content=69773"> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Sand?content=69773</a> >     Someone called 'Lyrae' has a whole host of similar (awesome and >     original) matte/square themes: >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876"> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876</a> >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nova?content=57310">http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nova?content=57310</a> >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Fawn?content=58426"> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Fawn?content=58426</a> >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Calla?content=52297">http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Calla?content=52297</a> > >     This 'wooden' is kind cool >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034">http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034</a> >     <<a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034"> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034</a>> > >     So is the Clearlooks theme from Breezy >     <a href="http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg"> http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg</a> >     <<a href="http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg">http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg </a>> > >     Nodoka, is a nice theme engine to use >     <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nodoka+GTK%2B+Engine?content=64604">http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nodoka+GTK%2B+Engine?content=64604 </a> > >     So, let's have a discussion about it - what do people think? > >     -- >     ubuntu-art mailing list >     <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com </a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> >     <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art </a> >     <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a>> > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> </blockquote></div>