[ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?
George Brooke
solar.george at googlemail.com
Wed Dec 19 21:54:04 GMT 2007
I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
solar.george
Ken Vermette wrote:
> One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
> buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
>
> A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
> interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects
> of Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
> (surprisingly) neutral.
>
> Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it
> mentioned constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse
> onto one edge of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge
> or a corner (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete
> corner of the window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully
> positioning the mouse over the button.
>
> While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to
> look at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or
> 2 pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability
> to slam.
>
> --Ken Vermette
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <solar.george at googlemail.com
> <mailto:solar.george at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
> How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off
> at the top rather like the main menu.
>
> solar.george
>
>
> Ken Vermette wrote:
>> It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you.
>> I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of
>> hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
>>
>> Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
>> proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added.
>> When they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in
>> the theme will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the
>> brown and slightly altered the orange - so it should hopefully be
>> a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even if I
>> think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
>> official Ubuntu colour pallet.
>>
>> I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular
>> colours; I don't think there will be a way to change the colours
>> via the colour menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm
>> involved (similar to the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
>>
>> Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg>
>>
>> the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF
>> actually has everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF
>> file on the first version, but the new one will be much better
>> for people who want to use or edit content because it's complete.
>> For anyone wanting to make a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups
>> are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then are imported into the
>> bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in inkscape and
>> export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for porting
>> into other themes.
>>
>> Thanks as always,
>> --Ken V
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth
>> <coreywoodworth at gmail.com <mailto:coreywoodworth at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing
>> on me. Of coarse there are things that still need work. The
>> orange in the theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit
>> it because of how heavy the browns are. I think using white
>> as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
>> better. I also think that the notification area needs to use
>> different colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly
>> stands out at all since it is the same color as the
>> background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking of the
>> windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
>> visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive
>> window where it looks like just a gradient from brown to tan
>> looks very ugly to me.
>>
>> I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could
>> be, but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown
>> haters if this were default. I hope that it works well with
>> the color options in the appearence settings so that keeping
>> the theme but using a different color is just a couple of
>> clicks worth of work.
>>
>> Corey
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <vermette at gmail.com
>> <mailto:vermette at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post
>> on the blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I
>> can try to learn python this weekend and assist in coding
>> later if absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to
>> work without the configurator?
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
>>
>> The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all
>> current elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF
>> source are directly below the image. I'll be downloading
>> some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
>> composition) and start to figure out how we could get
>> this beast into a live environment! The XCF source is
>> almost useless, but it can make life easy if anyone wants
>> to make a mockup with icons & text.
>>
>> The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests
>> (several of which will be integrated), but it gives the
>> closest impression to what a full desktop would look like
>> right now - barring the lack of widgets.
>>
>> Thanks all;
>> -- Ken V
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi
>> <iacopo.masi.list at gmail.com
>> <mailto:iacopo.masi.list at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <vermette at gmail.com
>> <mailto:vermette at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is
>> going into mockups. I need
>> > to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea
>> Cimitan, and see about getting
>> > information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I
>> start making the mockups
>> > live graphics.
>>
>> Cimi will release the code when a Murrine
>> Configurator should be
>> available so we must work towards the murrine
>> configurator in pygtk.
>>
>> take a look at
>>
>> http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
>> <http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/>
>> --
>> Iacopo Masi
>>
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