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I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.<br>
<br>
solar.george<br>
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Ken Vermette wrote:
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cite="mid:47737cfb0712191245x3db7867bj62aa352e4316b452@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with
the window buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.<br>
<br>
A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects of
Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
(surprisingly) neutral. <br>
<br>
Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it
mentioned constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse
onto one edge of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge
or a corner (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete
corner of the window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully
positioning the mouse over the button.
<br>
<br>
While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look
at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2
pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to
slam.
<br>
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--Ken Vermette<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:solar.george@googlemail.com">solar.george@googlemail.com</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">How about making the window
close minimise ect. icons rounded off at
the top rather like the main menu.<br>
<br>
solar.george
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Ken Vermette wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not,
it kind grows
on you. I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of
hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.<br>
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Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When
they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme
will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly
altered the orange - so it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't
really use any other colours (even if I think they'll look better)
because I want to stick to the official Ubuntu colour pallet. <br>
<br>
I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour
menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the
one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds). <br>
<br>
Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:<br>
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the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use
or edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a
mockup using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in
InkScape, then are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could
delete the BG in inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create a
render suitable for porting into other themes. <br>
<br>
Thanks as always,<br>
--Ken V<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey
Woodworth
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target="_blank">coreywoodworth@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">At
first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of
coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme
feels out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the
browns are. I think using white as the selected item color in the menus
would look a lot better. I also think that the notification area needs
to use different colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly
stands out at all since it is the same color as the background behind
it, and of most windows. Speaking of the windows, I really like the way
the titlebar and menu bar are visuially connected int the active
window. In the unactive window where it looks like just a gradient from
brown to tan looks very ugly to me. <br>
<br>
I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but
we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were
default. I hope that it works well with the color options in the
appearence settings so that keeping the theme but using a different
color is just a couple of clicks worth of work. <br>
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Corey</font>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vermette@gmail.com"
target="_blank">vermette@gmail.com </a>> wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Got
the link, and thanks to <cite>Racoqster</cite> for the quick post on
the blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn
python this weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary;
Would it be possible to work without the configurator?
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The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current elements
- and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below the
image. I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their
technical composition) and start to figure out how we could get this
beast into a live environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it
can make life easy if anyone wants to make a mockup with icons &
text. <br>
<br>
<cite></cite>The large mockup doesn't include the most recent
requests (several of which will be integrated), but it gives the
closest impression to what a full desktop would look like right now -
barring the lack of widgets. <br>
<br>
Thanks all;<br>
-- Ken V
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi
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target="_blank">iacopo.masi.list@gmail.com </a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vermette@gmail.com" target="_blank">vermette@gmail.com</a>>
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> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into
mockups. I need<br>
> to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see
about getting <br>
> information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making
the mockups<br>
> live graphics.<br>
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Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be<br>
available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk. <br>
<br>
take a look at<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/"
target="_blank">http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
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