[ubuntu-art] spec for Human Qt theme

[Wes Morgan]

Andreas,

That would be awesome! Can you take a look at the wiki for this spec and add
a note about your work? I want to at least register your (excellent) idea in
the spec, and hopefully track your progress on it.

The more icons we can get in there, the better. It's somewhat tangential to
the main thrust of the spec, but it moves us closer to the spirit of our
goal, so onward and upward! :)

Wes

On 11/21/06, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail at home.se> wrote:
>
> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 November 2006 23:33, Wes Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> That's a good point. I hadn't really even been thinking about the icons
> >> (more the widgets), but they definitely also need visual integration.
> >>
> >> Should we make a list of what needs to be done to have a working theme
> on
> >> the wiki page? Would it be worthwhile to start from any of the themes
> I've
> >> linked to already?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > That would a good way to start. The community can decide what is best.
> >
> > For KDE3 apps that is probably the easiest solution. KDE4 is a different
> > issue, as using one icon set for both desktops should be at least
> > theoretically possible, although a lot of work :-)
> >
> > Bye,
> > Ken
> >
> Just wanted to add that I have a couple of kde application icons in
> tango-common, but I would be happy to add more of them during this cycle
> so qt apps will not not look out of place the gnome-menus (or in the
> k-menus for those who run tango-icon-theme under the kde desktop).
> On a somewhat related note, would it be hard to design a tool that
> changed the icon set (and possibly the controls as well) of both my gtk
> and qt apps at the same time?
> - Andreas
>
> >
> >> On 11/21/06, Kenneth Wimer <kwwii at oxygen-icons.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 23:12, Wes Morgan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Kenneth,
> >>>>
> >>>> Great! Your help will be most appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's what I'm thinking on your KDE 3 vs. 4 question:
> >>>>
> >>>> The point of this spec is mainly to make sure that Qt/KDE apps
> running
> >>>>
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ubuntu (GNOME) look and feel exactly like GNOME/GTK apps (or as close
> >>>> as
> >>>>
> >>> we
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> can get). So, it seems like we need both a Qt/KDE 3 version and a
> >>>> Qt/KDE
> >>>>
> >>> 4
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> version. Because there are many (binary) apps out there that are Qt
> >>>> 3-based, and more and more that are Qt 4-based, not to mention the
> >>>> impending KDE-wide shift to Qt 4 with the upcoming release of KDE 4.
> >>>> But even when that comes out, it would still be nice to support the
> >>>> older Qt 3-based apps with this theme.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would think we should start with Qt/KDE 3 (at least for the feisty
> >>>>
> >>> cycle)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> and then we can focus on Qt/KDE 4 (in the feisty cycle too, if
> there's
> >>>> time, feisty+1 if not, since I would imagine that Kubuntu feisty+1
> will
> >>>>
> >>> be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> a KDE 4 system).
> >>>>
> >>>> Does that seem right?
> >>>>
> >>> Yepp. It sounds great. In the end it depends on the amount of work one
> >>> wants
> >>> to put into something :-)
> >>>
> >>> I hope that we can continue this discussion. From the KDE side, it is
> >>> also a
> >>> goal to use consistent icons in gnome apps running under kde. In the
> end,
> >>> working on this will help both projects, so I am all for it :-)
> >>>
> >>> Bye,
> >>> Ken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Wes
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/21/06, Kenneth Wimer <kwwii at bootsplash.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 22:28, Wes Morgan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Great. The first thing we need then, is a Qt theme that closely
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> resembles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Human GTK. Any out there experienced with Qt theming that can
> >>>>>> assist
> >>>>>>
> >>> me
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> with this? I'm thinking we can start with some of the attempts that
> >>>>>> have been made already and polish them up a bit. (See wiki page for
> >>>>>> links)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I can help. I did the Kubuntu artwork for the last two releases and
> >>>>>
> >>> I'm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> deeply
> >>>>> involved with KDE and KDE artwork (not to mention that I did all the
> >>>>>
> >>> art
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> SuSE for 7 years).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are still several open questions...is this for kde3 or kde4 or
> >>>>> both? KDE
> >>>>> is migrating to the xdg icon naming spec for kde4, so it might be a
> >>>>>
> >>> lot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> less
> >>>>> work to worry about kde4 and try to get things right for that before
> >>>>> making
> >>>>> something for the short term. Then again, maybe it would be nice to
> >>>>>
> >>> have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> something right away, while still working on the future...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there a Kubuntu art list that I should be cross-posting this to?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Nope, this is the one and only art list for *buntu (although I have
> >>>>>
> >>> often
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> thought that it might help to have a list for Kubuntu artwork alone
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>
> >>> it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> might help the Kubuntu art community).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bye,
> >>>>> Ken
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Wes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/19/06, Mark Shuttleworth <mark at canonical.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Wes Morgan wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The spec is here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/human-theme-for-qt-and-kde
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> What do you folks think of this? Where should I go next to get
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> ball
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> rolling? I'm hoping to get something in place for feisty+1. Feel
> >>>>>>>
> >>> free
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> rip that wiki page to shreds with questions, comments, rants,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> whatever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You're following exactly the right process: spec, discuss,
> >>>>>>>
> >>> implement.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> For
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> the implementation phase, you might want to meet up (online :-))
> >>>>>>>
> >>> with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> some of the MOTU team, to talk about getting the pieces packaged
> >>>>>>>
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> need. If you can do the packaging, they can sponsor the uploads
> >>>>>>>
> >>> till
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> are approved as an uploader yourself.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >
> >
>
>
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