[ubuntu-art] Artwork vote results

[Billy]

On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 07:56 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:

> Billy wrote:
>  > On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 02:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
>  >
>  >> Billy wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Seems to me that the team isn't the problem at all. Seems people
>  >>> don't want to make a move without your concent, because everything
>  >>> they initiate is shot down in flames, and they have no say it the
>  >>> things that really matter. /How can community prevail?/
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Billy - I'm trying very hard to make sure that work you and others
>  >> contribute makes it onto the golden CD next week. Release candidate is
>  >> in one day. Given the delay in getting the Launchpad team organised
>  >> (and in future this list and that team should be one and the same) and
>  >> the vote setup there, ANY sane vote location would do as a reasonable
>  >> expression of the team's wishes. As it is I'm very grateful to Henrik
>  >> for stepping in and providing SOME form of free-and-fair selection
>  >> process.
>  >>
>  >> Mark
>  >
>  >
>  > Does that mean a forum thread was not sane? I thought it was as sane as
>  > it gets. If you do not not, I'd like to know why.
>  >
>  > ...and if it wasn't, I wish you expressed so, a week ago. I could have
>  > easily set up an email address for people to vote and given access to
>  > the others to ensure I wasn't doing anything crooked.
>  >
>  > Billy
>  >
> 
> A forum thread was also sane, but if you ask me, it's still a better 
> idea to have people vote via e-mail. It's easy, does not require one to 
> use yet another large system to get something this small done, and 
> ensures that we know who the voters are easily enough.
> 
> At this point, there's no reason to discuss trivial things with each 
> other such as how we should have voted or whether or not the art team is 
> organized enough. If anything has come to light these past few days is 
> that we would like to be organized, but still have to thoroughly discuss 
> our situation if we want to.
> 
> We need to set a date for a meeting 
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Meetings). It's unfortunate that 
> I'll be busy the weekend following the release, so I doubt I would 
> personally have any time then, but I'm sure you can manage with one guy 
> less. Otherwise, I'd be up for a meeting anytime after release. Maybe 
> even the same night. Which time zones are we in? I presume there's 
> diversity in that; which time would be most beneficial, given 
> everybody's time schedules?
> 
> Michiel


Yes, I can see email would be much easier. Why didn't someone suggest
that instead of continuing to suggest using what we knew to be broken?
You can't get or be organized w/o communication.

trivial? If it was important enough to be chewed out for not doing
something when we_did_in_fact_do_it, then it is important enough to set
the record straight! It's offensive you think that to be trivial. I'm
done on the subject. Everyone here knew the facts, but Mark has more
than a full plate dealing with all aspects of a distro, so it was
emphatic he understand. I can deal with anything except being falsely
accused. It's also offensive you'd suggest no one should have said
anything just because you think it is trivial.

Concerning a meeting, doesn't matter to me. Human is going to be Human,
I don't like Tango or Tangerine, and because of my work schedule, I
don't have time to do much of anything to my full potential. I'll sure
try and pipe in though. I'd start another thread on that to discuss the
whys and whats before worrying about a date.

Billy
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