[ubuntu-art] Re: Default themes

[Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen]

2006/5/3, bvc <bvcmdk at yahoo.com>:
>
>  2006/5/2, bvc <bvcmdk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>         To address your list....
>         1) I think any pixmap themes should come from the other 3
> community themes.
>
> Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com> wrote:
>     Please plese, no pixmap themes. They may look shiny, but I believe
> them to be one of the core things that make people say that Gnome is
> unresponsive. Dapper is feeling snappy right now, let's keep it that way :-)
>
> ...
> Gnome is unresponsive because of cairo. The destruction took place with
> its premature, buggy inclusion in gnome2.10. It has improved but not near
> enough. If dapper feels snappy it's because you are not using ubunutulooks
> either.
>

I use only ubuntulooks based themes and they are perfectly snappy.


You have an old sys. Most, or a lot, do not and if you take a look at the
> most downloaded themes, you'll find they're mostly pixmap. People like
> eyecandy. No, I don't have a problem with pixmap themes not being included.
> I don't use them anymore anyway because of cairo's slow rendering and I'm
> not old. I'm not new but....athlon xp 1900, 512mb ram, nvidia gf mx440 64mb
> agp. Sad that something like this can't use pixmap themes. Very sad indeed.
>
> Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com> wrote:
>     That is not an excuse. Windows without buttons show up from time to
> time, and it just feels unpolished and Dapper is all about polish.
>
> I have never seen a window without a button. You must either use bad third
> party apps or a strange/custon button layout.
>

Nautilus. I encountered one, a while back - some dialog... Can't reproduce
right now...


> Point is, it can not be hacked, can it? I don't know how, do you? I'd bet
> there's a way but...where's devel? It IS NOT an inconsistency in the theme,
> it is an inconsistency is bad/lazy coded, minority apps that are not true
> gtk apps.
>

I really don't know if there is a work around. However Firefox and OOo are
perhaps the most high profile of the stock Ubuntu desktop. - But you get
street-cred for saying they are "minority apps" ;-P


>
> Hey, this isn't xubuntu, or the proposed fubuntu, or any other liteweight,
> whatever. It's gnome. Metacity is fine. Kill nautilus if you have speed
> issues. That's a fact! People have long dissed metacity without knowing what
> they are talking about. Metacity isn't the problem. I'm not saying it can't
> be better or better shouldn't be desired. I hate theming it, and upon its
> creation, by choice, it has many limitations, but it's a very small portion
> of peoples speed issues.
>


Optimization of the desktop responsiveness can not come in one fell swoop.
It is by fine tuning every possibly little knob we can find. Perhaps im more
of a freak on this because of my outdated box. I don't wan't to use Xubuntu
however - I use Gnome and that's not likely to change.

Cheers,
Mikkel
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