Make Ubuntu desktop a better platform for App Developers

Ashraf Samy Hegab ashcairo at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 15:25:44 UTC 2013


If you guys did that, I'd seriously love you! I submitted an app around 10
months ago and haven't heard anything since.

Full disclosure: I'm not a Linux vim child.
Ash

On Tuesday, 9 April 2013, Andrew King wrote:

> Remember that when you "abstract all that away" people get enraged about
> weird problems.
>
> Packaging is not horribly complicated and even less so if you use one of
> several "normal" build systems.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry at ubuntu.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'barry at ubuntu.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Apr 09, 2013, at 04:16 PM, Petko wrote:
>>
>> >I'm not sure I agree with your solution , but the problem is very
>> relevant
>> >. I've had a 1.0 of my app for 2 months now , but I don't have the time
>> to
>> >dig into the deb-packaging , just because everything around it is too
>> >stone-age , and time-consuming to get working . The OpenSuse building
>> service
>> >was the best thing I've seen , but I haven't got around making it work
>> yet
>> >either (I've read on it for ~2-3 hours and set up an account etc. , but
>> had
>> >to leave it at that for the time being) . Is the install process really
>> that
>> >complex ??
>>
>> Today, it is.
>>
>> I think there is lots of opportunity to make the entire toolchain easier
>> to
>> use, at least in the more constrained environment of app deployment.  This
>> could involve wrapping the traditional Debian tools in layers that hide
>> most
>> of the ugliness for 90% of the apps out there.  It could be we need to
>> adopt
>> or write a new system for installing and managing apps (along with all the
>> artifacts that come along with them, like .desktop files and so on) but
>> that
>> play nice with the rest of the system.  There will likely be some class of
>> applications that do crazy things and need the full power of the .deb
>> toolchain, so we can't prohibit that either.
>>
>> -Barry
>>
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