Make Ubuntu desktop a better platform for App Developers

Andrew King aking1012.com at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 15:23:36 UTC 2013


Remember that when you "abstract all that away" people get enraged about
weird problems.

Packaging is not horribly complicated and even less so if you use one of
several "normal" build systems.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Apr 09, 2013, at 04:16 PM, Petko wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure I agree with your solution , but the problem is very relevant
> >. I've had a 1.0 of my app for 2 months now , but I don't have the time to
> >dig into the deb-packaging , just because everything around it is too
> >stone-age , and time-consuming to get working . The OpenSuse building
> service
> >was the best thing I've seen , but I haven't got around making it work yet
> >either (I've read on it for ~2-3 hours and set up an account etc. , but
> had
> >to leave it at that for the time being) . Is the install process really
> that
> >complex ??
>
> Today, it is.
>
> I think there is lots of opportunity to make the entire toolchain easier to
> use, at least in the more constrained environment of app deployment.  This
> could involve wrapping the traditional Debian tools in layers that hide
> most
> of the ugliness for 90% of the apps out there.  It could be we need to
> adopt
> or write a new system for installing and managing apps (along with all the
> artifacts that come along with them, like .desktop files and so on) but
> that
> play nice with the rest of the system.  There will likely be some class of
> applications that do crazy things and need the full power of the .deb
> toolchain, so we can't prohibit that either.
>
> -Barry
>
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