Can't log back in on XpLike Ubuntu

[magpie]

Hi Glen,

CC'ing Joanie (the Orca developer) as she will most likely have some 
useful advice. Unfortunately I cannot tell you too much about orca or 
why the problem might have happened, but I believe I can offer a few 
suggestions on how you can fix it so you are able to log back into your 
computer again. It very possible to reset your account password and even 
su as you boot it up.

The first thing I would normally do is try using a 'live' usb or CD to 
boot from (you may need to change the boot priority in the bios first 
for that though) so you can back up your files and wipe over the 
installation fresh but not sure this is helpful since you seemed keen to 
keep your orca configuration as you had it so this actually might be a 
last resort here, I guess.

The alternative way is via using the terminal. I do know whether you are 
able to use text to speech using the command line at all and I am 
reluctant to go into detail without having had a chance to double check 
the steps myself first in case I forget something important in the 
process so I sought a document  which suggests you may be able to use 
espeak to read terminal commands the link is 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech (in case you can access 
webpages on another device)Can you advise on the status of the issue and 
the options available to you at present

For now, I am going give you only a rough outline but first note: You 
should be able to press <ctrl> F4 from the login page to get to a 
terminal prompt but this is likely to want your password too so failing 
that this is an outline of what you could try ie. a general (not yet 
checked through) my rough guide is this:

*Rough Guide*

1. Boot up and when the screen go to grub, press 'e' at the kernel

2. Navigate to where it says something like linuxefi (a bunch of numbers 
miscellaneous characters like vconsole and ro,) then before where a new 
line starts with something like initd (or similar sounding anyway) at 
the last line of the linux_efi setting there it will usually say 
something like 'quiet splash' you want to add something to the end of 
this line before the newline which says something like 'initrd' 
(IMPORTANT) if you are on that line you went too far: you need to place 
your edit only the end of the line just before 'initrd'). (These changes 
will be over written at the following boot so do not worry about trying 
things out with 'e' grub edits at all)

3. When you find that last character of the lines which follow on after 
linux (and before initrd!!! :-) )

4. Type the following:

init 3

5. Press F10 to boot into a command prompt.

4. Sometimes this does not help. In that case try step 4 like this instead:

rw init=/bin/bash

(Aside The 'rw' is important because it will give you write access (as 
well as read) which is what you need( but if you forget it you can 
unmount and remount from the prompt too). You can apply something like 
this with any login shell like csh (or even python) too)

5. Then press F10 to boot into command as before.


6. From there you can set the root passwd using the following command

passwd user

(e.g. 'passwd magpie' would be mine)

You should receive a prompt to enter a password in.

7. If still having trouble create a new user account

useradd my_new_user

Then repeat 6. for that user.

7. When all that works out as planned, type the following command to 
launch the graphical session

startx

hopefully this will bring up the login screen o you can sign in.

If things work out please check or post the logs from /var/logs/ to see 
what they tell you about the orca crash.) and file with a bug report on 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org. I can file a bug against the issue you raise 
about not being able to back up or save your settings if it would be of 
benefit to have that facility  it seems that might be part of the 
problem you are facing here but I am not overly familiar with orca so 
please correct me if I misunderstood things there.

I am happy to send an mp3 (or some othe format) with the instructions 
here once I have checked them more thoroughly and (can confirm they are 
complete ) in case that works better while your screenreader is playing 
up. But let's hope you have been able to sort things out already and 
none of this is needed. Otherwise good luck and please let us know how 
you get on.

Kind regards,
Magdalen (magpie)

On 19/01/14 03:53, Lenny wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying out a live session of XpLike Ubuntu, it's Ubuntu 11.04.
> Happily Orca ran when I tried it after boot up.
> After Orca setup, it wants to log out and back in in order to work.
> After logging out, I cannot log back in.
> I have to have sighted assistance to shut down and reboot.
> But then of course, I have to start over with the Orca setup.
> I have tried no password/username, and I have tried ubuntu in both and
> either field.
> It will not authenticate my login.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Glenn
>
>

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