<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Glen, CC'ing Joanie (the Orca developer) as she will most likely have some useful advice. Unfortunately I cannot tell you too much about orca or why the problem might have happened, but I believe I can offer a few suggestions on how you can fix it so you are able to log back into your computer again. It very possible to reset your account password and even su as you boot it up. The first thing I would normally do is try using a 'live' usb or CD to boot from (you may need to change the boot priority in the bios first for that though) so you can back up your files and wipe over the installation fresh but not sure this is helpful since you seemed keen to keep your orca configuration as you had it so this actually might be a last resort here, I guess. The alternative way is via using the terminal. I do know whether you are able to use text to speech using the command line at all and I am reluctant to go into detail without having had a chance to double check the steps myself first in case I forget something important in the process so I sought a document which suggests you may be able to use espeak to read terminal commands the link is <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech</a> (in case you can access webpages on another device)Can you advise on the status of the issue and the options available to you at present For now, I am going give you only a rough outline but first note: You should be able to press <ctrl> F4 from the login page to get to a terminal prompt but this is likely to want your password too so failing that this is an outline of what you could try ie. a general (not yet checked through) my rough guide is this: Rough Guide 1. Boot up and when the screen go to grub, press 'e' at the kernel 2. Navigate to where it says something like linuxefi (a bunch of numbers miscellaneous characters like vconsole and ro,) then before where a new line starts with something like initd (or similar sounding anyway) at the last line of the linux_efi setting there it will usually say something like 'quiet splash' you want to add something to the end of this line before the newline which says something like 'initrd' (IMPORTANT) if you are on that line you went too far: you need to place your edit only the end of the line just before 'initrd'). (These changes will be over written at the following boot so do not worry about trying things out with 'e' grub edits at all) 3. When you find that last character of the lines which follow on after linux (and before initrd!!! :-) ) 4. Type the following: init 3 5. Press F10 to boot into a command prompt. 4. Sometimes this does not help. In that case try step 4 like this instead: rw init=/bin/bash (Aside The 'rw' is important because it will give you write access (as well as read) which is what you need( but if you forget it you can unmount and remount from the prompt too). You can apply something like this with any login shell like csh (or even python) too) 5. Then press F10 to boot into command as before. 6. From there you can set the root passwd using the following command passwd user (e.g. 'passwd magpie' would be mine) You should receive a prompt to enter a password in. 7. If still having trouble create a new user account useradd my_new_user Then repeat 6. for that user. 7. When all that works out as planned, type the following command to launch the graphical session startx hopefully this will bring up the login screen o you can sign in. If things work out please check or post the logs from /var/logs/ to see what they tell you about the orca crash.) and file with a bug report on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org">http://bugzilla.gnome.org</a>. I can file a bug against the issue you raise about not being able to back up or save your settings if it would be of benefit to have that facility it seems that might be part of the problem you are facing here but I am not overly familiar with orca so please correct me if I misunderstood things there. I am happy to send an mp3 (or some othe format) with the instructions here once I have checked them more thoroughly and (can confirm they are complete ) in case that works better while your screenreader is playing up. But let's hope you have been able to sort things out already and none of this is needed. Otherwise good luck and please let us know how you get on. Kind regards, Magdalen (magpie) <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/01/14 03:53, Lenny wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:C77A902C640B4A349C74320A7737A2FD@your2c061f0461" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, I am trying out a live session of XpLike Ubuntu, it's Ubuntu 11.04. Happily Orca ran when I tried it after boot up. After Orca setup, it wants to log out and back in in order to work. After logging out, I cannot log back in. I have to have sighted assistance to shut down and reboot. But then of course, I have to start over with the Orca setup. I have tried no password/username, and I have tried ubuntu in both and either field. It will not authenticate my login. Any ideas? Thanks. Glenn </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>