Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 69, Issue 16

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i had same cap-lock and read all semi colon; but last updates fixed that.
i must alt-f2, orca to start yet.  it too will get fixed, as has in the 
past.  wil

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>     1. Natty accessibility issues (Nolan Darilek)
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> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:07:45 -0500
> From: Nolan Darilek<nolan at thewordnerd.info>
> To: Ubuntu-accessibility<ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Natty accessibility issues
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> Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:
>
> 1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible,
> and can't find an accessible way to switch back. There appear to be
> unlabeled controls on the login screen, including one that speaks
> "null". How do I switch back to classic GNOME from the command line? And
> I thought that Unity wouldn't be hoisted onto existing users, just new ones.
>
> 2. I'm encountering an issue wherein pressing capslock to use Orca
> commands in laptop mode actually toggles capslock. This is going to be a
> pain and a half if there isn't a workaround. What is that workaround?
>
> Have to admit to being a bit frustrated by these. Part of why I waited
> to upgrade to the latest_stable_  Ubuntu version until August was that
> I'd hoped that any lingering access issues would be worked out by now. I
> understand why a new version of Unity can't ship, but this capslock
> thing took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime
> since April 30th and a fix could have been shipped? I could also
> understand if I was upgrading to the unstable 11.10, but this is a
> stable Ubuntu months after release. There shouldn't be these
> productivity-killing issues present in a stable upgrade after months of
> it being out in the wild.
>
> But in any case, thanks for any workarounds. It'll be nice to get back
> to a more accessible GUI and get this capslock thing sorted so I can
> start getting work done today.
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:24:44 -0400
> From: Mackenzie Morgan<macoafi at gmail.com>
> To: Ubuntu-accessibility<ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Natty accessibility issues
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> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nolan Darilek<nolan at thewordnerd.info>  wrote:
>> >  but this capslock thing
>> >  took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime since April
>> >  30th and a fix could have been shipped?
> I remember this issue being brought up on this list months ago, but I
> can't find any record of it in the bugtracker.
>
> -- Mackenzie Morgan ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: 
> Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:47:47 -0600 From: Charlie Kravetz 
> <cjk at teamcharliesangels.com> To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com 
> Subject: Re: Natty accessibility issues Message-ID: 
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> SHA1 On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:07:45 -0500 Nolan Darilek 
> <nolan at thewordnerd.info> wrote:
>> >  Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:
>> >  
>> >  1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible,
>> >  and can't find an accessible way to switch back. There appear to be
>> >  unlabeled controls on the login screen, including one that speaks
>> >  "null". How do I switch back to classic GNOME from the command line? And
>> >  I thought that Unity wouldn't be hoisted onto existing users, just new ones.
> I do not know the accessible way to do this, but if you could have
> someone assist:
>
> - From the login screen, after entering your name, change the session at
> the bottom of the screen from "Ubuntu"  to  "Classic". After being
> changed, it should remain at classic.
>
>> >  
>> >  2. I'm encountering an issue wherein pressing capslock to use Orca
>> >  commands in laptop mode actually toggles capslock. This is going to be a
>> >  pain and a half if there isn't a workaround. What is that workaround?
> Copying the response from Luke on July 27, 2011:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2011-July/005314.html
>
> Yes, this problem is known, however nobody knows how to fix it yet,
> probably because nobody is looking. I'd like to try and address this
> ASAP, so intend to try and find some time to dig deeper into this
> problem that is also affecting Ubuntu 11.10. If a fix is found, 11.04
> will be given the fix also.
>
>> >  
>> >  Have to admit to being a bit frustrated by these. Part of why I waited
>> >  to upgrade to the latest_stable_  Ubuntu version until August was that
>> >  I'd hoped that any lingering access issues would be worked out by now. I
>> >  understand why a new version of Unity can't ship, but this capslock
>> >  thing took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime
>> >  since April 30th and a fix could have been shipped? I could also
>> >  understand if I was upgrading to the unstable 11.10, but this is a
>> >  stable Ubuntu months after release. There shouldn't be these
>> >  productivity-killing issues present in a stable upgrade after months of
>> >  it being out in the wild.
>> >  
>> >  But in any case, thanks for any workarounds. It'll be nice to get back
>> >  to a more accessible GUI and get this capslock thing sorted so I can
>> >  start getting work done today.
>> >  
> - -- 
> Charlie Kravetz
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