Ubuntu 9.04 loss of sound on dist-upgrade & high-speed speech problem

[luke Davis]

Hello

Continuation of my problems with 9.04 (Jaunty).

I've stopped using the talking install option, since it left me with high 
speed speech, which I could not at the time resolve.

Using the accessibility profile:

If I install from the live CD, I get the high speed speech.

However, if I install from the live CD, and do a purge of pulseaudio 
(which removes ubuntu-desktop), I get a fully functioning orca.

Now, interestingly, even doing that, there appears to be a pulse running 
at some level, so not sure what's up with that.

The third option: I can install from the LiveCD without purging 
pulseaudio, and get the highspeed speech.  If I then purge pulseaudio, I 
have normal speed speech again.

A dist-upgrade still breaks everything (sound goes away completely), 
somewhere shortly after the configuration of the Ekiga softphone takes 
place.

It may be a laptop hardware oddity, but the startup (post-login) sound 
clip sometimes skips a little.  It did it on the live CD about 70% of the 
times I booted that CD (which I did about 20 times in the past few days).
 
Luke

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote:

>  You can start orca after it logs you on and the log on sound is heard by
> pressing alt+f2 and typing orca. You can invoke it from the virtual consol as
> well.
> 
> Thanks
> Nimer J
> 
> Nimer M. Jaber
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> > It's been a while since I did this: what is the method to start orca in
> > the regular install?
> > As simple as going to a virtual console and invoking it?
> > I tried an alt-F2 during the install just for kicks, and it failed to
> > invoke a run dialog.
> > 
> > Yes, I can try it, but not until later in the day--my time is up, and I
> > have to go with what I have, which is having to run from the jaunty live
> > CD, and hope that I don't need anything I can't do from an ssh connection
> > from gnome-terminal.
> > I should have a few hours downtime during the day, and will try it then.
> > 
> > Thank you for your advice.
> > 
> > Luke
> > 
> >   On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote:
> > 
> > >   Can you try an installation of ubuntu with the regular profile where you
> > > purge pulseaudio before starting the install or after installation
> > > commences?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Nimer J
> > > 
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> > > luke Davis wrote:
> > > > Those were exactly the keystrokes used, and their effect was visually
> > > > verified when I started the installation.
> > > > 
> > > > All of the .pulse files appeared; and the dbus launches of pulse-session
> > > > were running; and purgeing pulseaudio made alsa think there was no sound
> > > > card, so I would say that pulse was definitely installed.
> > > > 
> > > > Luke
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >    Then you shouldn't have to disable pulseaudio, as by default, 9.04
> > > > > uses
> > > > > alsaaudio. Is it possible that the accessibility profile didn't get
> > > > > applied?
> > > > > On boot, enter for English, f5, 3, enter, enter should get you an
> > > > > accessibility profile. Otherwise, just use the regular profile and
> > > > > remove
> > > > > or
> > > > > purge pulseaudio.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Nimer J
> > > > > 
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> > > > > luke Davis wrote:
> > > > > > If by accessibility profile, you mean hitting F5, 3, enter before
> > > > > > installing, then yes, I did that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I assume you didn't install using the accessibility profile? If
> > > > > > > so, do
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > have the option or reinstalling? If so, try with the accessibility
> > > > > > > profile.
> > > > > > > You can try purging pulseaudio, but doing a dist-upgrade seemingly
> > > > > > > messed
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > your system.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Nimer J
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nimer M. Jaber
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > luke Davis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Update: I will still get this if I re-install, which I may do.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > However for now, I have dist-upgraded within jaunty.  At that,
> > > > > > > > orca
> > > > > > > > produced no sound at all.
> > > > > > > > I installed sox, and trying to play an mp3 file got me no sound
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > > I installed aumixer, and changed the system volume from 0 to
> > > > > > > > 100.
> > > > > > > > The mp3 plaied, but orca still wouldn't speak.  Rebooting yet
> > > > > > > > again
> > > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > a system with seemingly no sound.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So maybe 9.04 is not as functional as I thought.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > figuring I have nothing to lose, I am purging pulseaudio.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, luke Davis wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have recently had to reinstall Ubuntu on my laptop, and went
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > 9.04.
> > > > > > > > > Starting to regret it, since I wanted LVM, but the installer
> > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > include it, but that's neither here nor there.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > My urgent usability problem is: orca is starting when I alt-F2
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > type
> > > > > > > > > orca, but it says everything at an incomprehensible high
> > > > > > > > > speed, as
> > > > > > > > > described previously on this list.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have tried the "touch ~/.pulse_a11y_nostart" solution
> > > > > > > > > oft-described
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > these lists, but it had absolutely no effect.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I need this laptop for a job in a few hours--are there any
> > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > solutions
> > > > > > > > > which might be implemented, since the touch option doesn't
> > > > > > > > > work?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > an "ls .pulse*" gets:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > .pulse_a11y_nostart  .pulse-cookie
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > .pulse:
> > > > > > > > > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-sink
> > > > > > > > > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-source
> > > > > > > > > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:device-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm
> > > > > > > > > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:runtime
> > > > > > > > > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:stream-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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