nvidia-experimental package with expedited SRU process?

[Bryce Harrington]

On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 08:45:35AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> As a side note, I believe the ethos behind the "nvidia-current" name was to
> represent the presently stable nvidia driver version.  Appending the
> -updates to "nvidia-current" or -experimental to it may be convoluting that
> namespace and/or confusing the user.
> 
> Would just making it "nvidia-stable", "nvidia-updates", and
> "nvidia-experimental" perhaps make more sense?

That does seem clearer.  I do favor 'nvidia-experimental' over
'nvidia-current-experimental' since it's more concise and arguably
clearer.

By now the 'nvidia-current-updates' name is established and folks are
used to it, so we may not gain much by changing it.  But I do like your
suggestion of the simpler nvidia-stable.

In any case, I don't think we should engage in renaming packages for the
LTS, and even for quantal maybe we're a bit too close to release.  But
perhaps this would be a good topic for UDS-R?

Bryce

> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Martin Pitt <martin.pitt at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Bryce,
> >
> > Bryce Harrington [2012-09-03 17:17 -0700]:
> > > > I guess this selection should also persist across dist-upgrades, for
> > > > people opting in to "always stay on the bleeding edge"?
> > >
> > > Well, my vision here is not for supporting users wanting to be on the
> > > bleeding edge, so much as providing required driver support for
> > > particular commercial games.
> > >
> > > The use case would be that a user purchases a game that needs a beta
> > > driver; the beta driver gets installed and they can play their game.
> > > Later they upgrade to a new ubuntu that includes the latest released
> > > -nvidia driver; that version is sufficient for playing the game they
> > > bought.  So it isn't important to keep them on the beta driver at that
> > > point; we could return them to stock without issue.
> >
> > Ah, thanks. This use case indeed calls for the "one-time enabler"
> > behaviour, not a permanent selection.
> >
> > > Maybe the right question for this case is, is it feasible to move them
> > > from the -beta driver back to stock on upgrade?
> >
> > Sure. The experimental driver in the final release is an empty
> > transitional package pointing to nvidia-current. The first n-c-e in
> > -updates will then drop the Depends: nvidia-current and go back to
> > Conflicts:/Replaces: nvidia-current and ship its own driver.
> >
> > I just saw that our current nvidia-current-updates does not yet
> > conflict to nvidia-current; I think it should only ever be possible to
> > install one nvidia package flavour at a time, so that the alternatives
> > are being handled automatically (since we do not have a GUI for
> > switching between them).
> >
> > Martin
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