Not installing changelogs in 11.04

Matt Zimmerman mdz at ubuntu.com
Wed Nov 10 11:15:11 GMT 2010


On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 12:09:28PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>  Right, the question is wether it would make sense to remove them from
> the CD only. On the other hand, that would create different packages
> from different installation areas, thus resulting in quite some
> confusion. From what I calculated, 25 mb were thrown around, which would
> be a bit more than 3% of a regular CD size - are these numbers correct?
> Is this difference worth the confusion?

The short answer is: yes.  Space on the Ubuntu Desktop Edition CD is very
tight.

> > Changelogs are of course a valuable developer tool, but do we really
> > care that much about having them available locally? Personally I think
> > that an 
> >   apt-changelog gnome-panel
> > is not much harder than
> >   zless /usr/share/doc/gnome-panel/changelog.Debian.gz
> 
>  This apt-changelog utility sounds quite helfpul. Is this going to get
> into the regular apt-utils package (within Debian) too?

http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ and http://changelogs.debian.net are currently
not compatible with one another, so apt-changelog might require a bit of
porting for Debian.

>  See above, network access is not always available. And would
> apt-changelog offer a possibility to call it on a networked computer to
> download them all and transfer them through usb stick to a system to
> store them in their expected place? Would apt-changelog actually store
> the changelog in the expected place?

It doesn't sound appropriate for a tool which displays the changelog to then
stuff it into /usr/share/doc (which requires root, read/write fs, etc.).
I'm sure there are many ways in which apt-changelog could be improved and
extended, but that we only need minimal functionality in order to meet our
objectives in Ubuntu.

-- 
 - mdz



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