Ubuntu opts for LibreOffice over Oracle's OpenOffice

Christopher Chan christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
Wed Jan 26 01:50:02 UTC 2011

On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:33 PM, Samuel Thurston wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Christopher Chan
> <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>  wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 09:45 AM, Samuel Thurston wrote:
>>> Personally I've never seen the value in LTS releases since I am not
>>> maintaining a large multi-user installation, and I was a Debian user
>>> before migrating to Ubuntu BECAUSE of the shorter release cycle.
>>> Perhaps you should consider doing the dist upgrade every 6 months
>>> instead of being upset about your 2 year old desktop not being up to
>>> speed.
>> Hahaha. You must be kidding. I did the Hardy->Inteprid->Jaunty treadmill and
>> stopped. While I did not get major problems, you bet I don't want there to
>> be a first like all the others who were screaming on the other list.
> Personally, I sit back and quietly wait for the screaming to die down
> to a low whine, and then I upgrade.  Usually somewhere between a month
> and two months after the release.  My experience has been extremely
> pleasant.

Yeah...guess why I waited on Jaunty.

>> I stuck
>> with Jaunty until it's support cycle almost ended and then did two upgrades
>> in a row to reach Lucid.
> This sounds like a really big pain when you eventually do have to
> upgrade.  Were I to go that route, I would probably just burn a CD and
> do a full reinstall at each LTS upgrade, rather than the
> double-dist-upgrade hassle.

Nah. I will just not use anything between LTS releases. dist-upgrade 
between LTS releases should be relatively pain free. If I wanted full 
reinstall kind of stuff I'd use OpenIndiana...if only OpenIndiana has 
KDE packaged, I'd kiss Ubuntu good bye.

>> I use Kubuntu so in my case, it was worth the
>> hassle but I am not going to go through that ever again.
> There we go.  What Cybe R. Wizard said.

I did not have problems with KDE itself besides the lack of features in 
Intrepid. Most of the problems surround pulseaudio which really meant 
restarting pulseaudio. Which would be same whether GNOME or KDE.

>>> But, since I have managed to find a solution to every issue you've
>>> raised within 5 minutes of Google searching, it makes me honestly
>>> wonder how concerned you really are about the issues themselves,
>>> versus taking an interest in complaining about them.
>>> Just sayin.  Best of luck.
>> I rebuilt kopete to support Yahoo! Messenger on my Hardy box with a patch
>> submitted to a bug report on Hardy. So yeah, I am not concerned, I just love
>> complaining that I had to do the legwork.
>> Find a solution within 5 minutes of Google searching right? How about a
>> solution for pulseaudio on Lucid when you have two soundcards, onboard and
>> an addon? No, disabling or removing one of them is not quite acceptable as
>> the addon provides a joystick port and midi.
> There are still joysticks that use the port?  I thought they were all USB now.

I ain't throwing out my Thrustmaster gear just yet.

> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759147
> There's a pulse config tool submitted by a user, but I don't know if
> it supports a dual-card config.
> However you very well could disable the second card in the pulse
> config since it only needs to be recognized by ALSA for midi
> configuration, and the joystick port will work regardless.
> I have onboard&  third-party setup on my desktop and haven't had any
> problems with pulse.  But I disabled the second card in the pulse
> setup as I describe above, and was still able to use the midi port
> through alsa/jackd routing.

I could get sound with jack but Adobe flash does not support jack. Nor 
does skype. pulseaudio just would not work. You'd think that pulseaudio 
would be working when it worked in earlier distros...

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