Karmic Epiphany Annoyances

Cybe R. Wizard cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 3 13:06:27 GMT 2009

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:36:13 +0000
David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/11/23 Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>:
> > I tried Midori - so basic it was not usable. I have only tried Arora
> > on Windows, where it just GPFed every time I ran it. I forgot about
> > Kazakahase or however you spell it and I have never heard of Rekonq.
> I like Arora. Unfortunately, getting an up-to-date copy on Linux
> involves compiling from source, and the whole point is that it's a
> wrapper around qt-webkit, and Qt frequently doesn't compile straight
> off svn HEAD. (In fact, I get unreliable and ever-changing errors when
> I try. o_0 ) But nice enough as one to keep on hand ;-)
> - d.
David, please send to the list and Cc others.  Please!  I know
that you advocate settinga alist Reply-to: but that's /not/ the
answer.  Here's why (from Dave Sherohman on the Debian list):

"With reply-to set to direct responses back to the list, a response
which was intended to be private becomes public.  With no reply-to, a
response which was intended to be public becomes private.

Perhaps your experiences have been different than mine, but, as I see
it, publicizing something intended to be private is very likely to cause
harm, and this harm may be rather substantial.  (Sending a closed
project bid to your competitors, distributing your home phone number to
all of d-u's thousands of subscribers, etc.)  Sending a reply privately
that was intended to go to the list is unlikely to do any more than
cause minor annoyance.  (Re-send it to the list and you get the original
intended effect with no harm done beyond the embarassment of messing it
up and the initial recipient seeing it twice.)

Granted, for most lists, the substantial majority of replies are
intended to go to the list, but the greater degree of harm caused by
inadvertently publicizing private information is, I believe, large
enough that the average harm-per-reply (i.e., expected harm from a
mis-send times the odds of a mis-send) is still lower without setting

So, please, take control of your email and set proper addressing.

Cybe R. Wizard
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