Freespire's Google ads: "What is Ubuntu Missing?"

Karl Goetz kamping_kaiser at
Sat Oct 7 04:15:55 BST 2006

Scott wrote:
> On Friday 06 October 2006 07:37 am, jarrodhenry at
> (jarrodhenry at spake thusly:
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> On Friday 06 October 2006 19:31, Chanchao wrote:
>>>> This is getting pretty philosophical.. In rigidly pursuing absolute
>>>> Freedom, people can't play their music without jumping through
>>>> hoops..
>>>> Chanchao
>> You have to jump through hoops on any installation from scratch. 
>> Remember that in most cases, the OEM has done all the work for you. 
>> Have you ever tried to install windows from scratch and watch a DVD
>> right after installation?  Or play MP3s?  Or various other things?
> In his exmaple he just cited MP3s and Windows Media Player plays them
> out of the box with a fresh install of Windows (from the Windows CD).
Not on any install i've ever done.

> You mention OEM installs and and imply it's not a fair compariosn. 
Its not a fair comparison.
Just because an OEM does the legwork for 'mum 'n' dad' doesn't mean the 
point about OEMs is irrelevant. it just means the playing field is uneven.

> Technically it's not, but the fact is "Mom and Dads"
> (Dell/Gateway/HP/Compaq/eMachines/Acer...) Computer arrived at their
> doorstep with an OEM installed and configured Windows XP OS. (with "out
> of the box" support for playing mp3, wmv & wma files (and possibly even
> QuickTime and Real formats if those players were installed).  OEMs
> generally include a "stripped" down version of DVD players as well
> (generally suitable for most anything "Mom & Dad" would need).
> I'm not dissling Linux, I much prefer it. But then, I'm willing to do
> what it takes to get it working the way I want it (ie.g. full
> multimedia support).

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